James Comey used his personal email account while investigating Hillary Clinton

James Comey testifies on Capitol Hill

In my humble opinion, no one likes former FBI Director James Comey. Should he have been fired from the FBI? Actually, I would argue that yes, he should have been fired. The issue was that Donald Trump fired Comey because Trump wanted to impede the Russia investigation. Comey deserved to be fired for the way he single-handedly swung the election for Trump, for the way he deviated from DOJ and FBI protocols, for the way he ignored the chain of command and substituted his own perverse sense of unearned moral authority for that of long-held FBI and DOJ rules. When Comey was on his book tour a few months ago, he managed to gloss over his role in getting Trump elected completely too, which just shows you that after all this time has passed, he is still unwilling to acknowledge his own terrible mistakes. He doesn’t want the blame for inflicting Trump on the republic. But it’s his fault. I know because the Inspector General’s report says just that.

You can read extensively about the IG’s report here. I think the purpose of the IG report was to give Republicans some kind of cover to endlessly bang on about how Hillary Clinton is the one who should be prosecuted for something, anything. The IG report is 500 pages long, and its most damning passages are about Comey’s errors in judgment, his refusal to adhere to protocols and more. Buried within the report, there’s also this interesting note:

James Comey used a personal Gmail account for official government business while FBI director, after leading the investigation into the Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, the Justice Department’s inspector general said Thursday. The report contains several examples, including times Comey sent himself drafts of a testimony he planned to deliver to Congress and drafts of bureau-wide updates he planned to send to mark milestones during the year.

Using personal email for work purposes is “inconsistent” with DOJ policy, given a lack of “exigent circumstances and the frequency” at which the use occurred, the report says. The FBI investigation in 2015 and 2016 looked into whether Clinton and others deliberately sought to handle classified information improperly on her personal email account and server while she was secretary of state.

[From CNN]

So while James Comey was providing grist for the “BUT HER EMAILS!” mill in Congress, he was also using a personal gmail account to do some work business. This was Hillary Clinton’s reaction:

It’s funny, but it also made me want to cry. And I sort of want to write a 600-page dossier about why Hillary Clinton’s emails were held to such a different standard than James Comey’s emails or Jared Kushner’s emails or Paul Manafort’s emails. But maybe there will time for that later on.

Also, there’s this completely f–ked up part of the IG report. James Comey really was doing the most to ensure that Trump was elected. What’s up with Comey? Does he just hate women or was there something profoundly more insidious?

Hillary Clinton speaks during her promotional book tour for 'What Happened'

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  1. Darla says:

    He was terrified of the NYC field office, who are rogue and should have been dealt with. That makes him a coward. He is a misogynist though probably unconsciously; he did not hold Loretta Lynch in the esteem he would have held a male boss, and he thought Hillary needed to be put in her place. He is hubristic.

    That’s what happened.

    • Panda says:

      ding ding ding! We have a winner! Comey did not respect Lynch. There’s so much intersectionality going on there, I don’t even have the time to parse his white man brain. He was sticking it to lynch, thinking it would not affect the election. It did, he didn’t control trumplandia, and now he not only does not have her job but is jobless. Serves him right. Similar to Dotard, just different sides of same coin.

    • Iknowwhatboyslike says:

      This fact gets glossed over a lot: the fact that here we have the FIRST black female Attorney General of the United States and the white male head of the FBI, a card caring member of the good ole boys club, ignoring her orders – not respecting her directions. Believed she could not do her job and did the complete opposite of what she instructed. James Comey is the epitome of white male privilege and the bull that black women, who’ve made it to high positions, have to deal with. I cannot stand this man.

      • Esmom says:

        Yeah, as I was processing this yesterday I became increasingly enraged. Had he simply respected Lynch and protocols, we would very likely have HRC as president today.

      • ErgoSatz says:

        Here is what I think is missed. NO ONE Forsaw trump’s win except those who were inside the scam. So Comey was just cleaning the slate w all that bs blame from Cambridge analytitica. It was like dusting a new car for a potential buyer who would never buy the optional 2nd hand jalopy that is trump.

      • JRenee says:

        Valid points, smdh.
        The misogynistic and covert racist behaviors are why we have trump in office.

    • Becks1 says:

      This is a good point. He definitely did not respect Loretta Lynch. I said below that you could tell he disliked Hillary – its almost tangible – but you could also tell his total lack of respect for Lynch. The people he talked about the most favorably – with the exception of Obama – were all white men.*

      *presumably. I didn’t google any of the names so could be wrong.

    • Veronica S. says:

      What a surprise. White men continue to make the world shittier for all of us in America while they skip away more or less scot-free.

      • Jess says:

        No joke, Veronica. God, this is all so depressing and infuriating. And yes, I want a great book one of these days about the double standard for the way Hilary has been treated versus all of these men (emails, Clinton Foundation vs Trump Foundation, how Hilary was the only candidate punished for the sexual assaults of women while both of the men doing the sexual assaulting were elected President), and the way Comey treated her and disrespected his boss). This week’s news has been so horrendous, even by Trump standards, that this news just makes me want to cry.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        NO F*CKING KIDDING.

    • Betsy says:

      I dare say you’re correct.

      There is no other explanation for his showboating in July 2016 and for not saying that Trump was actually under investigation. He wasn’t the one who released the classified letter in October – that was Chaffetz – but the coward Comey didn’t deal with his rogue NY office. Oh, how I look forward to the day when unconscious misogyny becomes conscious so people can DEAL WITH IT.

  2. xdanix says:

    But her emails…

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      And Hillary Clinton already tweeted about it: “But my emails…”

      One of my deep regrets in all this mess is that we will never know what it would have been like to have her as the US president.

      • Esmom says:

        Yes. She should be POTUS and we should not be living in what truly feels like hell right now.

      • Becks1 says:

        That tweet is literally in the story lol.

      • Red Snapper says:

        If HRC was Pres. right now Congress would be impeaching her.

      • lucy2 says:

        I think she would have had a very, very difficult time with the GOP control Congress, but she’d be light years better than Dump. Anything would be better than Dump.

        I wonder if she has a punching bag or something at home. Just reading this makes me want to scream and rage, I can’t imagine how she feels.

  3. kaye says:

    never not angry, seriously–just can’t even.

  4. broodytrudy says:

    F*ck him.

    • B n A fn says:

      F them all, Comey, Putin, Dotard, the Republican Senators, and congressmen, and all the ones who colluded to take the Presidency from Hillary. Some of us here has been saying forever that Hillary had so many forces working against her she could have not have won. Yet, she received $3,000,000 votes more than the dotard. He bet that must still give him many sleepless nights. This morning he’s on tv saying the IG report was a win for him because “no collusion”, 🤮. Now this dotard is getting ready to welcome Putin in the whitehouse, I’m going to get off TV for the balance of the week because the lies will be coming fast and furious from 45 and his sects. Looking forward to seeing Maniford going to jail today.

      • Betsy says:

        Call the Republican senators who have appeared to have a conscience, however briefly (Flake, Corker, Graham used to, Collins), and ask them what their plans are to hold Trump accountable. Not more speeches; what will their actions be?

    • Olenna says:

      Exactly. He fucked up, big time, now he needs to go away ’cause of I’m sick of looking at his pathetic, punk-ass martyr face. And no TV news for me this weekend, either.

    • Dee Kay says:

      Yup. This. F–k Comey. That’s all I will ever have to say about that man. F–k you, James Comey. Forever.

  5. Lala says:

    There are few people I despise most in the free world than Comey…not even Trump gets that level of ire from me, because he’s ALWAYS been a POS and NOTHING he does surprises me…NOTHING! Comey is the PERFECT example of a powerful, misogynistic, entitled White man whose hubris and lack of morality plunged our country into a permanent Constitutional crisis…he KNEW what he was doing was wrong…KNEW IT! In modern political history, there has been other FBI Directors who had to sit on horrific information regarding REPUBLICAN POTUS candidates (Nixon/Reagan/Bush/Bush) …yet did and said nothing during the election process because they did not want to taint or sway the public…yet, because he and SO MANY OF HIS BRETHREN DESPISED the fact that a woman, that HRC… was about to become the most powerful person in the world…he did what (in)humans like him ALWAYS do…and we’re living in the end result…

    I hope every child that was snatched away from their parents/guardians as they tried to LEGALLY request sanctuary in this country, yet were treated as if they tried to sneak in…every minority in this country that suffers unbearably because of Trump supporters who have become bold in their hate…I hope every American citizen who is dealing with the economic realities of having their paychecks squeezed unbearably due to increased gas/food/living costs…which is ALWAYS the economic landscape when there’s a Republican in the WH… hope EVERYONE whose lives have gone down dramatically since Trump colluded/cheated/hacked his way into the White House…

    May ALL of those peoples’ energy…haunt Comey…..

    • Iknowwhatboyslike says:

      What makes me dislike him so much is his hubris. This stupid ass notion that he is some kind of moral authority. If your motivation is YOUR moral authority and not what is right and fair, then you’re not a good person.

    • Janetdr says:

      Yes, yes, yes. None of this should be happening. Can I jump on another timeline please ?

  6. Eric says:

    This IG report by Horowitz was supposed to be the King James Bible of cover for Emperor Zero. Instead, about 7 words of the 500-page report provide minimal cover.

    Worse still for EZ is that Cohen can’t “turn back time” to try to silence Avenatti and Paul Manafort gets his comeuppance today. I mean who else but Mr Mueller would get 150 blank subpoenas?

    Happy Friday everyone! And happy birthday to mestastizing Orange for being sued yesterday (along with your 3 adult children).

    • lightpurple says:

      Yes. We’ve been hearing from the Trumpets and the MAGAts that this IG report was going to scorch the earth and result in the Clintons, the Obamas, Comey, Schumer, Schiff, Pelosi and a bunch more being hauled out in shackles. Now, they’re telling us to ignore all of it to focus on one text exchange between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and make it into a sex scandal to take down the government. No. Just no.

      • Eric says:

        @lightpurple
        Those 7 words are from Strok to Page, who asked if he’s (EZ) going to be president via text:

        “No, no he won’t. We’ll stop it.”

        Pretty funny that the Dotard retweeted this out via Fox and Friends just this morning.

        Hey Emperor Zero? You have any actual work to do today?? Asking for 63 million+ Clinton voters.

      • Christin says:

        It’s as if significant embezzling is happening at a large bank in a big city, but the focus ends up on two lower level detectives playing footsie. Except we’re taking about something infinitely bigger here, with the cultish desire to ignore common sense.

      • Kitten says:

        IMO Strzok is a hero who tried to save us from this nightmare. But Deplorables are all over Twitter, screaming about how he’s a traitor who tried to interfere in elections. Russian interference A-ok though. And of course, none of them are saying sh*t about the fact that 45 stole from veterans and others with his slush fund Trump Foundation.

        Sigh. His supporters are the worst f*cking people.

        @ Christin-exactly. Good analogy.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Not to mention that it makes PERFECT SENSE in light of the fact that they knew potential Russian collusion was going on. Then their actions and bias take on a decidedly different tone than the political – they were attempting to stop a TRAITOR.

      • Darla says:

        Veronica, I know right! This drives me crazy. That’s exactly what they wanted to do, stop a traitor. That’s their job. So they did their job, or tried to, until Comey decided he knew better.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Manafort is headed to jail! Witness tampering doesn’t pay, Manny, especially when Mueller has access to your cloud. Someone is finally facing consequences for their actions!

      I hope the time in the cell makes him consider long and hard whether or not to cooperate with Mueller. They have the goods on him anyway. The only way to make things less horrific for himself and his family is to cooperate.

      • Kitten says:

        Ghouliani “When the whole thing is over, things might get cleaned up with some presidential pardons.”

        Get ready. There is nothing that Desperate 45 won’t do to save himself.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        Mueller owes Oleg Deripaska millions. He has much worse things to worry about than federal prison.

  7. Becks1 says:

    Something that came through loud and clear in his book was that he does not like Hillary. He really liked Obama, but cant stand Hillary. I am sure that colored his actions. I didn’t even pick up the same level of dislike when he talked about Trump. He didn’t respect trump, but the attitude about it wasn’t the same.

    On the one hand, I do kind of understand why he felt he had to release that letter about Hillary. Can you imagine if he HADNT, and then it came out after she was elected that the investigation had been reopened, and no one said anything? At that point no one would care if it was protocol to keep quiet or not. The republicans would have had a field day that would make the Russian investigation look like a game. Can you imagine the hearings, the investigations, the Fox News reports? In some ways the Rs would have loved it. Chaffetz prob wouldn’t have resigned because he could keep investigating Hillary!

    He should NOT have said anything, but I can kind of understand why he felt he was between a rock and a hard place. But he should have kept his mouth shut anyway. It wasn’t “concealing.” It was following protocol.

    What I don’t get is why he felt so compelled to “reveal” the reopened investigation but did not say anything about the Russian interference. That to me is the really unforgiveable part. Okay you’re going to open your big mouth about Hillary 5 days before the election. It’s a stupid, sexist, infuriating move, whatever. but you keep your mouth shut about Russia??!!?!?!?! Like if you felt you had to reveal the former investigation, then you should have felt the same about the latter.

    • lightpurple says:

      If he hadn’t released the letter, Chaffetz was going to do something.

      • Darla says:

        Yes, the little weasel was going to do something. But comey was the director of the federal bureau of investigation. He is supposed to protect the country and its people from high level criminals and terrorists. And he cringed before Jason Chaffetz.

        Not exactly Eliot Ness material.

      • Becks1 says:

        I read a comment yesterday that Chaffetz was the one who did actually leak the letter. Comey sent it to Chaffetz who then leaked it.

        But I admit I kind of blocked out that time period haha so I cant remember the details. I just remember the news alert and thinking “oh my god, here we go again.”

    • Esmom says:

      I am starting to believe that even if he had mentioned Russia, Trump still would have won. The Trump train was pretty unstoppable by then. But we. will. never. know. Sigh.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think you have to consider the margin of victory in key states. I think it was something like 80k votes between PA, MI and WI? Something like that. Had Hillary won those states, she would have won. So maybe the information about Russia would have been enough to either motivate would-be Dem voters (who maybe were “meh” on Hillary) to get to the polls, or it would have made some of the third party voters vote for Hillary, etc. But like you said, we will never know.

      • Chaine says:

        I flat out know some republicans who were going to vote Hillary and when Comey made that announcement it shut them down cold and they just didn’t vote at all.

      • Christin says:

        I know of several people who said they would not vote for him, but could not vote for her, either. They stayed home. I don’t think any revelation would have changed their mind.

    • MoreSalt says:

      + 1

      If he didn’t reveal the investigation and she won, that’s at least 4 years of screeching about her illegitimate presidency, and continued complete obstruction by the GOP against anything and everything she tried.

      The plot twist I didn’t predict: they’re still screeching about her, regardless, years later, after she lost, and still getting nothing done.

  8. RBC says:

    I am waiting for Wikileaks or some hackers to make public some of Comey’s emails. That will make for some interesting reading. Comey is hiding something.

  9. Mego says:

    This review of Comey’s book hits that nail on the head re his character

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/opinions/james-comeys-ego-crilly-opinion-intl/index.html

  10. Darla says:

    I often wonder how this would have played out if Mueller had never retired and had still been director during the campaign and election.

    • Becks1 says:

      Well we have an idea of that, seeing how tight lipped Mueller and his team are now. Mueller never would have held that July press conference, which I think was Comey’s first big mistake.

  11. Rapunzel says:

    I don’t know what to think about Comey anymore. But I do know I think this should not have been getting more press than the fact that Trump is getting sued. Yet it did.

    Proof that the media hasn’t learned sh*t and still has it in for Hillary.

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      Yes the headline about the lawsuit is way down the headline list for the Washington Post. C’mon. Seriously?

      All of Trump’s projection about the Clinton Foundation was swallowed hole by both the Right and the Left.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        swallowed “whole.”

      • Kitten says:

        I reached my breaking point with MSM month ago. With the exception of the occasional WaPo piece, I’m on a strict diet of The New Yorker, The Atlantic, and The Guardian as well as a handful of podcasts hosted by people who I trust.

        Too much bullsh*t out there.

    • Christin says:

      True. But maybe they’ll switch gears today for Pauly and Mikey, who each have little court happenings today.

    • Kitten says:

      This is what is frustrating the f*ck out of me. Just so sick of this BS.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      The IG report doesn’t have the legs that the GOP wanted to give them cover for the midterms. It will soon become a victim of the 24-hour news cycle. But the lawsuit against the Trump Foundation is an ember that will burst into a larger flame as the evidence is examined and the IRS gets the receipts. We are playing a long game here. It is scary and frustrating, but the tide has turned in our favor.

  12. Ms says:

    I’m so exhausted with this dystopian nightmare at this point. I’m furious with Comey, and at the same time, the American voters were dumb enough to get trolled and are willing participants in one of the worst long cons in American history.

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      Can’t get past Trump’s approval ratings of up to 40 percent. That’s a lot of people. It is several times that of the approval level needed to install a dictator.

      And Bush was re-elected in the face of all evidence of being a terrible president, so there’s that.

      • Lady D says:

        I was completely floored when Bush was re-elected. I was convinced at the time that he was going to kill all of us. Ah for the good old days when I was so naive.

    • Rescue Cat says:

      As I’ve always said, Trump will leave a steaming pile of shit in the White House and somebody else will have to clean it up. He and his family will walk out of the White House richer than when they walked in, which was the whole point of the exercise.

    • AnotherDirtyMartini says:

      +1000

  13. Veronica S. says:

    Hillary’s three word tweet response to this bombshell was the stuff of legends. Normally, I’d recommend people keep that kind of stuff off the Internet, but I feel like she’s earned the right to a little pettiness at this point.

    • Snazzy says:

      Lol she totally earned it. Her tweet was amazing

    • Esmom says:

      I choked on my tea when I saw it and immediately sent it to a bunch of friends who aren’t on Twitter. It was amazing. Hilarious and heartbreaking.

    • Kitten says:

      I LOL’d. She absolutely earned the right to deliver that shade.

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      Don’t even see it as being petty. She’s just right. She was right about everything. She always has been.

      Women’s rights are human rights and human rights are women’s rights.

  14. Darla says:

    So trumpy was just on Fox news (MSNBC had clips) and he lied like the dog he is. He actually stated that separating children from their parents is a “democrat bill, and they could very easily fix it”.

    I had a bad night last night. Really bad. I saw a first person account of these camps on Chris Hayes, and the guy said the little children are running up and down the halls screaming for their parents. I hit rock bottom.

    I can’t write what I would like to about Trump, about what I really think. I don’t know that I would be banned here, but I might be getting a visit from a power higher than Kaiser.

    I’m sick over this. I did the whole lunch time of action yesterday, everything on the list. But when I hit rock bottom last night I realized that I would rather die in one of trump’s camps than be a good nazi and go along to get along. So I have a lot more to do. I’m very open to flying to Texas where they are going to be putting children in tents in over 100 degree weather. What I do know for sure is I have to up my own game. We need change and I am going to start with myself.

    • Veronica S. says:

      Honestly, it’s the fact that it’s all over the news that’s frightening. Usually, our government tries to hide it’s misdeeds. This is right out in the open, with right wind pundits justifying it. We need to stop pretending he isn’t exactly what we feared he could be.

    • Kitten says:

      *hugs* You’re an empathetic person, Darla, but please remember to practice self-care. Very important during these times. Trump America is brutal on empaths but we have to remember to take the time to nurture ourselves, whether it be through escapism (reading a good fictional book, or watching a movie, etc) or just getting outside and reconnecting with nature. I know that’s hard as hell to do when all this crazy sh*t is going on but please try.

      Pod Save America talked a lot about Sessions’ immigration “policy” last night and it was just so heart-breaking. I’m at a loss for words. The scariest part is that I fully believed that this would be a bridge too far for Deplorables. They have children–they should understand how horrific this is. But nope, they are out there defending this barbaric sh*t. Just mind-boggling how heartless they are. You know, there was a brief window of time after he was elected that I felt vaguely sorry for these people who got conned, but now I just straight-up want nothing to do with them.

      Also, it’s crazy how much the Right demonizes MS-13 (which is probably the least of our f*cking problems) while not allowing immigrants who are fleeing violence inflicted by MS-13 into our country. We also have yet to have even ONE MS-13 member held in the detention centers. This is America. This is so heart-breaking and it’s so hard to feel so helpless.

      • Darla says:

        Yes Kitten, you connected with me here, you get it. You are right. I know he is killing my mental health, but then I think about what he is doing to these kids, and I can’t disconnect because it’s too easy to disconnect and then you might as well be dead. But I understand about the self care. I am really trying that. I have been watching Bosch on Amazon, which I just discovered. Or I will rebinge an old favorite. I do practice some escapism because as you definitely know, if we get driven out of minds by this guy, we wont’ be able to help anyone. I guess it’s like putting on your oxygen mask first on a plane in distress. It feels wrong if you are with your child, but if you go down, they’re left helpless.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Trump supporters do have children, but they don’t think of the children of refugees and asylum-seekers as children “just like their own” due to years – decades – of systematic dehumanization. It worked in Nazi Germany, it worked in Rwanda, it worked in Cambodia, it works anywhere that people want it to work – and now it works in the United States of America.

      • Kitten says:

        I’m so glad to hear that. Things have been particularly bad lately and it’s so easy to be consumed by this never-ending nightmare, but we need to be emotionally strong to fight this beast.

        Hang in there. ♥

      • Lightpurple says:

        That whole bit about Sessions and Sanders and the Bible enraged me yesterday. The Bible is NOT the rule of law in the US and can NOT be used to justify our government’s actions. Cite an actual regulation and statute enabling that regulation. And, as Joe Kennedy III (God, I love that sweet, compassionate angel of a man) pointed out yesterday, just a few paragraphs later, the Bible goes a very different way than what Sessions was claiming.

        As for their obsession with MS-13, no doubt the Latin Kings thank them for taking out the competition while ignoring all other gangs. Same with their ISIS obsession while the Taliban regains strength and kills more of our people unnoticed.

    • B n A fn says:

      I cannot imaging my children taken away from me and not knowing where they are or who is taking care of them. This in my opinion one of the worse thing this “mad man” is doing in my memory in this country. I know he’s not mad he’s just evil and all I can say is, what goes around comes around and his day will come. He’s acting like he was elected to do what he’s doing but he should remember most of the voters did not vote for him. He stole the election with a lot of help from Comey, Putin and lots of other people. Btw, he looks like hell warm over, just saying.

      • Christin says:

        He’s getting that S. Penn ham-faced look. Not looking well at all.

        Yet callous people usually outlive the nicer people. He’ll probably see 90 while everyone else drops around him.

  15. Christin says:

    So he realized the impact of an “October surprise”, yet he personally chose to do just that 10 days before the election.

    He tries so hard to portray himself as a moral compass, yet history is going to view him as a weak leader with highly questionable judgment at a crucial point. He can write 100 books and do 1,000 wide-eyed, golly-gee interviews and that won’t change.

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      Yeah, he’s not the Boy Scout/choir boy he thinks he is.

      • Christin says:

        Life experience has taught me to not automatically believe someone’s self-proclamations, so I am admittedly a bit cynical about him. He probably does believe he is a choir boy, but his 2016 actions were flawed and he won’t acknowledge it.

      • Betsy says:

        Other than this, he might be.

        But “this” is orders of magnitude bigger than anything else, so he’s not as tidy as he’d like to believe.

    • ORIGINAL T.C. says:

      Honestly I think he was just trying to protect his butt and the FBI against charges of bias. Republicans, Independents and some Democrats believed HRC was shady and getting away with murder (literally). The GOP was going to leak that letter Wikileaks style. And even more Dems would have stayed home.

      Also Comey’s wife is a Democrat. She and their 5 daughters were HRC supporters. His wife did vote for HRC and all went to the woman’s march.
      https://youtu.be/kVM1Sup-lNo

      I wonder if the GOP was going to use that against him and claim he was giving HRC a pass because he is a secret Democrat. I agree though he should have stood up to the GOP.

  16. Rapunzel says:

    Meanwhile, Trump is f*cking over our country with his trade wars, Canadians are boycotting us, anD the traitorous POS in the White House is supporting Russia’s hostile annexation of Crimea as okay, saying that Crimea is part of Russia because ” They all speak Russian.”

    #ThanksComey

    • B n A fn says:

      I’m predicting inflation will set in real soon and all his google eyes 👀 followers will be coming to their senses soon when they have to pay more for everything and their pay checks only raised $10 a week, Just my humble opinion.

      • Kitten says:

        Yeah I have been hanging on to the notion that the economy collapsing would be the only thing that dulls their fervor for their king but honestly..? I don’t know anymore.
        I think in the year after his presidency we talked a lot about the “brainwashing” of his followers but I always kind of though that it was more of a pride issue and a racist/xenophobic/misogynistic issue. But I’m actually starting to believe that they are truly brainwashed. I think 45, with the help of Fox News, has successfully brainwashed them into believing everything he says.

        I’m at the point where I believe that these people need to be deprogrammed in order to see reality again. And I know it sounds crazy but I really am at that point.

      • Darla says:

        I think so too Kitten. I have some family who are trumpsters ,and i view them as true cultists. There is no reaching them. They will follow this money launderer with hair made of urine soaked cotton, straight into hell itself. It’s a cult.

      • B n A fn says:

        Kitten, his followers reminds me so much of the Jim Jones followers. I bet if he offers kook aid laced with ciniade they would drink it gladly.

        Off topic: Maniford is in jail. I bet that was one of the reason the dotard was off his rocker this morning. He’s still talking about Hillary, blaaa, blaaa, F him.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Some of his followers are people of means who can make little cutbacks and not really feel the pain. I think they have to lose health insurance to face it, or their Social Security benefits or access to Medicare.

      • elle says:

        @kitten – I agree. I want to share some snippets of conversations I recently overheard from Trumpy family members :

        “He’s draining the swamp – it’s just that the swamp was a lot bigger than he thought.”

        “He’s trying, but the liberals keep trying to stop him.”

        “The media tries to make him look like a buffoon.”

        “Hillary…”

        There was much gloating about Bill Clinton’s recent appearance in the news with comments about #MeToo.

        They talk about this giant orange shitstain as if he were an intelligent being making rational and reasoned decisions.

        AND, for some reason, my father keeps making the Trump butthole face. It’s like he’s practicing. They watch Fox News 24/7. If they walk into a room where something else is on the TV, they immediately change the channel. I think they can’t get too far away from the mothership for fear some truth might slip in.

      • Kitten says:

        @ Elle-I was thinking about you, Beth and some of the other commenters around here yesterday. I had just been thinking how much I detest Trump supporters then reminded myself that I have family members that support him and that people on C/B have family members that support him. As I’ve said before, it’s easier for me to ignore my Trumpster family members because they are 3,000 miles away, but it would be so hard if they lived near me and I saw them frequently. It would be so painful and just…intolerable.

        I am truly sorry that you’re dealing with that. I wonder what, if anything, will snap them out of it. In the meantime, it has to take a toll on lefties’ relationships with their loved ones who support that monster.

        Hang in there, Elle.

        PS- I LOL’d at “trump butthole face” 😉

      • Darla says:

        Elle, I feel you, I have 2 brothers that support him, and extended family members. Though I did cut the extended family members off. I’m sorry, and I know how alone one can feel at times over this.

        And thank you for “trump buttfhole face” what a laugh I had.

    • CrazyCatLady says:

      The thing hasn’t started a trade war with Australia yet but I won’t buy anything with made in USA on it. I know lots of Aussies who think the same way and I live in regional NSW where people can live in their own little bubbles.

      His rhetoric is emboldening our own racists and we obviously have our own issues with Manus and Nauru. I am going to start getting political for the first time in my life. This crap needs to stop.

  17. adastraperaspera says:

    Hillary did her job so well that she won the popular vote by millions, which in any normal country would win an election. Comey did his job so poorly that he basically allied himself with the Russians to bring her (and our country) down. He should get on his knees, crawl over broken glass, and apologize to her. But he never will.

  18. Ponchorella says:

    Unrelated (sort of), but Manafort is going to the pokey to await trial. Hope he brought a toothbrush (and figures out the only way to bring it to his sweet new digs)! Happy felony Friday, bitchies!

    • Darla says:

      Yes! When I heard the news I have to admit it was a bit of a pick me up.

      • Kitten says:

        Chris Hayes said that if 45 pardons him the public reaction should be equivalent of Mueller getting fired. I agree.

        It’s just so hard to celebrate any of these tiny victories knowing that there are no checks and balances in place to prevent 45 from doing whatever the f*ck he wants. Sigh.

      • Darla says:

        I know, it’s true. I agree with Hayes too. I think we will be well prepared with massive protests ready to go.

  19. noway says:

    My big problem with Comey is NOW we are doing this. Sure he screwed up, and he should have respected Loretta Lynch’s authority and followed protocol, and yes he is a big reason Trump won. But Trump also fired Comey, for the wrong reason. Does doing the right thing for the wrong reason make it right? In this case Hell No!!!! This whole thing gives Trump more ammunition to say I did the right thing. This can not be a focus.

    Reality is Hillary, Comey and a lot of others don’t have any power now. Trump does. This gives Trump ammunition for his base and others, especially when we focus on it. I understand Hillary’s remarks, because she was so screwed, but everyone else needs to move on. I wish the focus was more on Trump’s crimes and misdemeanors. Can’t change Comey, and I don’t really care about him anymore. Trump needs to go and it’s too important to look at the shiny new object and not focus all our ire on Trump instead.

  20. AnotherDirtyMartini says:

    I’m still incredibly bitter about the entire 2016 election. I’m super annoyed that Comey’s book did well. Every time I looked at the amazon charts, there was his effing book at the top…ugh. So, this post and this info makes me a tiny bit happy. Where’s the effing justice though? ☹️

  21. Twinkle says:

    Reply to:
    “The Other Katherine says:
    June 15, 2018 at 11:36 pm

    Mueller owes Oleg Deripaska millions. He has much worse things to worry about than federal prison. ”

    >You mean Manafort, not Mueller. Right?

  22. Twinkle says:

    Reply to:
    “The Other Katherine says:
    June 15, 2018 at 11:36 pm

    Mueller owes Oleg Deripaska millions. He has much worse things to worry about than federal prison. ”

    >You mean Manafort, not Mueller. Right?

  23. Pineapple says:

    There are a lot of people who I think deserve jail as of late ….. this guy is near the top of the list.