NYT: Ryan Adams is a manipulative, emotional abuser of multiple women

Musician Ryan Adams attends Hollywood Gala celebrating Capitol Records 75th Anniversary on November 15, 2016 in Hollywood, California.

Ryan Adams has barely crossed my mind in the past few years. He and Mandy Moore split up and divorced in 2015, and the only real public drama was about money and spousal support. Post-divorce, Mandy seemed like a huge weight was lifted, and she’s been working nonstop. Now, courtesy of the New York Times, we’re getting a look at why Mandy and Ryan Adams divorced, and what kind of man he’s been all along. Hint: he’s an emotionally and sexually manipulative psycho. Mandy even spoke on the record to the NYT about suffering through years of Ryan’s emotional abuse. You can read the full NYT piece here:

In the piece, seven women and a dozen close associated describe “a pattern of manipulative behavior in which Adams dangled career opportunities while simultaneously pursuing female artists for sex…In some cases, they said, he would turn domineering and vengeful, jerking away his offers of support when spurned, and subjecting women to emotional and verbal abuse, and harassment in texts and on social media.” Here’s more, via Variety:

Singer/actress Mandy Moore, Adams’ ex-wife, says in the article, “Music was a point of control for him.” The article goes on to accuse him of exposing himself with an underaged girl who at times lied about her age, yet he persisted. “i would get in trouble if someone knew we talked like this,” Adams wrote to her in November 2014. “If people knew they would say I was like R Kelley lol,” he wrote later.

He also struck up a romantic relationship with singer/songwriter Phoebe Bridgers. While the relationship started off as strictly musical, the article says Adams began sending Bridgers “flirty texts,” she said, and a “whirlwind romance” ensued. Bridgers said Adams began discussing marriage less than a week into their relationship, and insisted that she open for him on his European tour. But in the following weeks, “Adams’s attention turned obsessive and emotionally abusive,” the paper cites Bridgers as saying. demanding to speak with or and threatening suicide if she didn’t reply immediately. She said he rescinded his offers of tour-support slots after their relationship ended. Through his lawyer, Adams disputed Bridgers’ characterization of their relationship, calling it “a brief, consensual fling.” She also said he later invited her to his hotel room and then answered the door completely nude, a charge Adams denied through his lawyer. Two other female singer/songwriters level similar claims.

For her part, Mandy Moore, who was 23 at the time their relationship began, convinced her to fire her manager and effectively took control of her musical career. She said that over their six years together he became psychologically abusive. “He would always tell me, ‘You’re not a real musician, because you don’t play an instrument.’ His controlling behavior essentially did block my ability to make new connections in the industry during a very pivotal and potentially lucrative time — my entire mid-to-late 20s,” she continued.

The article states that the women only recently discovered their similar experiences and have built a support system.

“What you experience with him — the treatment, the destructive, manic sort of back and forth behavior — feels so exclusive,” Moore said. “You feel like there’s no way other people have been treated like this.”

Adams’ long list of exes also includes actress Carrie Hamilton (the late daughter of Carol Burnett), musicians Melissa Auf der Maur, Leona Naess, Parker Posey, Natalie Prass, Phoebe Bridgers and Julia Hatfield and music publicist Amy Lombardi, some rumors from 2006 about Lindsay Lohan, journalist Jessica Joffe, and model Megan Butterworth.

[From Variety]

I’m sorry to discover that my first instinct of “he’s a creep” was dead-on. How many men get to hide behind “he’s a musical genius” and “he’s just a deeply misunderstood artist” when they’re just fundamentally shady, gross abusers? I also think he’s absolutely the type to go for very young women because he sees them as easier to manipulate and emotionally abuse, and he probably thinks “the younger, the better.” I feel so sorry for Mandy Moore, but at least she got out. What a controlling piece of sh-t he is.

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  1. Erinn says:

    I kind of assumed something had gone down with their marriage. What a PoS.

  2. Clare says:

    Ughhhhhhhh. The only good thing in this mess is that Moore is in a place where she can speak about him and gis abuse on the record.

  3. Alissa says:

    I kind of wondered why she was such a big deal and then just dropped off the face of the Earth for a bit. sad to see that this is why, makes sense that she exploded again as soon as she was no longer with him. what a jerk.

  4. Lucy says:

    Happy Valentine’s day, d*ckhead.

  5. Becks1 says:

    Ugh, that’s horrible. What a POS.

  6. SM says:

    How is he a musical genius? I have never even heard of him. Meaning his music. However, I did read about how he is not above trashing women before. So much for the genius. I suspect he is one of those bros who think no woman can be more successful than he is so he puts them down. And he probably thinks that women in general are a man’s accessories.

    • Anna says:

      Yeah, he trashed Mandy after they split. His tweets about her are still out there I think. He just sounded so disgusted and disdainful towards her, I am not surprised at all that he was an abusive d*ck. He really sounded like one. Good on her for getting out and finding happiness with her current husband.

    • Laura says:

      His music is the most mediocre swill I’ve ever heard, I’m not even sure how he has any sort of following or critical acclaim.

    • tealily says:

      I couldn’t tell you a single song he’s done, but he *IS* a very big deal in certain circles. I know some folks who worship at his feet (or did a decade or so ago anyway). I’ve always thought his music was meh at best and he just rubs me the wrong way. Glad to see my bullsh*t detector is still serving me well, as sorry as I am that this happened to these women.

    • Harryg says:

      He is not. His music is crap.

    • Jessica says:

      He is a musical genius. I have followed him since his Whiskeytown day’s and been to countless shows. This news surprised neither my husband nor me, sadly.

      • Mariposa says:

        He did a whole album a few years ago that was a cover of Taylor Swift’s 1989, and it was excellent. When he gets it right, he is very good, but he tends to put out really uneven albums, have the songs are crap and the others are amazing. It’s like he has no filter and can’t distinguish between good and bad songs. In terms of his abuse, he sounds a lot like that tech guy from the nerdist.

    • shocked-and-appalled says:

      He sounds super gross and I’m glad he’s getting his comeuppance, but IMO you not knowing or liking his music doesn’t mean he’s not genuinely talented or gifted. There are a ton of unheralded, extremely talented musicians who aren’t widely known. A ton. Fame does not equate with talent, I’m happy to say.

  7. LT says:

    The “discussing marriage one week into the relationship” is such a red flag. It’s called love bombing and narcissists do it to throw a person off their game. The receipient feels like the center of the universe – for a while. Then, the narcissist turns controlling and critical. The love-criticism-love cycle continues and the object of the attention is bewildered and vulnerable.

    Glad Mandy Moore is away from him and others are warned.

    • megs283 says:

      nevermind that he was still married at the time.

    • Maggie says:

      So spot on. I was with a love bomber once who really messed me up. It is a horrible thing to go through when you realize the “love” is really coming from a mental disorder.

    • Jensies says:

      People with Borderline Personality Disorder are famous for it too, and a lot of this sounds like unchecked and untreated BPD behavior.

      • Mariposa says:

        That’s what I was thinking too, especially with the suicide threats.

      • Arpeggi says:

        Sometime, often actually, people are simple a-hole because that’s what they are while being totally neurotypical.

      • TeamAwesome says:

        He’s also someone who has self-medicated with every drug he could get into his veins, so I would believe there’s some brain chemistry askew for sure…

      • Justjj says:

        I know they’re both Cluster Bs but dang, at least there’s hope for those who are suffering from BPD and their feelings while extreme are coming from an actual place versus those with NPD who are empty and toxic to the core.

      • whitecat says:

        BPD doesn’t cause you to sext 14 year old girls.

        That’s pedophilic behavior and often pedophiles are charming and exhibit sociopathic behavior.

      • pinetree13 says:

        The whole mentionning getting married within weeks is like classic domestic abuser same with threatening suicide. They don’t actually mean it, they just want to control you. I had a loser boyfriend who did this.

    • Spicecake38 says:

      My ex husband did this to me,you are spot on above the Love criticism Love cycle.I was so young and couldn’t figure out why this person who wanted to marry me so early in the relationship seemed to suddenly hate me (verbal abuse was rampant),then when I was broken by his words,reduced to tears,and promised to fix my terrible self,he was back then the Love cycle again.One day it hit me…This was all him, I left,that’s that ,but I think this behavior is so much more common than we realize,and calling this behavior out is very important.

    • Courtney says:

      YES! I was also quite young (20) when my now ex-husband began that cycle. He was my first serious boyfriend, and it was so confusing. Wanted to be in a monogamous relationship from the second date, engaged after 6 months, met parents less than a month in, etc. But then acted like he couldn’t stand me.

    • Mich says:

      I got sucked in by a love bomber once. It was crazy. He was incredibly smart, super manipulative and such an expert gaslighter that I became a wreck of a person within a year. I finally reached the point that I had had enough and stopped taking his calls. The longer I ignored him, the more revealing (and angry) his messages became. One night, I finally did answer the phone. I let him go on and on trying to suck me back in. He laid it on thick about how much he needed me, how depressed he was, etc. At one point, he asked me what I thought and I said I wasn’t sure I wanted to tell him. I knew he would ask “why?” and when he did, I told him it was because he was so much weaker than most men that I didn’t think he could handle it. I sounded super concerned about him when I said it but was smiling inside. That man had put me through hell. Never heard from him again after that 🙂

      • Meg says:

        I really wish warning signs of abuse was talked about with teenagers or we all would’ve avoided these abusers. people are so concerned with protecting their kids from drugs, STDS, pregnancy- talk to them about warning signs of abuse!

      • Mich says:

        @Meg – Thankfully, we are starting to talk about it more and more. Watching the way Tom Cruise love bombed Katie Holmes and then watching her disintegrate the longer they were together was something I could relate to all too well.

      • pinetree13 says:

        So true Meg. I didn’t even know i was being abused until much later. The abnormal jealous and controlling, trying to isolate me from my friends “Dont hang out with those sl*ts” belittling me, wanting to be committed right away, giving me a ring right away, sigh so many red flags but if you’re young and don’t know…

        …this should totally be a unit in health class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Babadook says:

    Yeah, he’s always given me very uncomfortable vibes. Good for Mandy Moore!

  9. BengalCat😻 says:

    I always got a ‘I have better taste in music than you but show me your tits’ vibe from him and could never really get into his music. Plus, the whole remake of 1989 was super weird to me. I’m glad MM got out. That Jason Isbell song, (Chaos and Clothes) about their relationship is one of my all time favorites.

    • wendywoo says:

      Totally. On Twitter someone called his 1989 just an album of mansplaining- like, let me show you how to record your own songs… It struck a chord.

      • Shrute’s beet farm says:

        Yes! Especially when he changed Taylor’s lyrics…one of which he changed to “you…got that ass so tight.” I remember people mentioning that when his version of 1989 was released.

      • Harryg says:

        It was terrible in every way. A jerk.

      • Chicken says:

        I gave that “cover” album a listen but liked actual 1989 way better (because 1989 was a freaking great album, although I also love several songs on Reputation). But I don’t remember that lyric change, but it would have gone, “You’ve got that red lip, classic … ass so tight?” That’s where the altered lyric would fit, right? Gross. What’s so wrong with just changing it to “You’ve got that red lip, classic, thing that I like”? What a douchebag.

      • Shrute’s beet farm says:

        Chicken

        Don’t know if you’ll still see this, but he says, “You’ve got that long brown hair thing that I like, you’ve got that good girl faith thing, and that ass so tight” or something along those lines. Blech.

    • delphi says:

      And apparently Ryan no longer speaks to Isbell because of that song. Good on ya, Jason. *round of polite Southern applause* #TeamIsbell

      (Seriously though, I still love some of RA’s stuff from The Cardinals days, but lort. That boy is a human dumpster fire.)

    • usedtobe says:

      Love Chaos & Clothes as well…damn good song and I hear it from a different place now.
      Did you see JI’s Twitter about it? He was asked if he knew about the behavior, he said no. Asked if he believed it, one word “Yep.”
      Too bad. Ryan did help him get sober so I guess that is one thing RA did right because I love Jason sober.

  10. Jessica says:

    He’s gross and a fraud. I hope this completely ruins him. Sick of these scumbags. Sick of so many men hating women.

    • Bella Bella says:

      It won’t ruin him. There are so many men like him.

      • Justjj says:

        It bolsters their edgy playboy image to be abusive nutbags often times. It helps them out in life. It never effects their career or their image long term.

  11. CooCooCatchoo says:

    He looks so much like my emotionally abusive ex-husband. I’m glad Mandy is out of that relationship and that others are exposing him for the dickhead he is.

    • BengalCat😻 says:

      He looks like someone I used to date too. What is it with that face that emits such douchery? Ugh, they can all fuck right off.

      • NicoleInSavannah says:

        Same. He looks a like a turdbag I dated too. Aren’t we lucky? JI is a freak of nature. His music is awesome and I love that Trae Crowder loves him too! Did not mean to add the Jason Isbell comment here. Close enough. Give Cleo kisses!!

      • BengalCat😻 says:

        JI is fascinating. I’ve always been more of an indie/punk person, but his music has blown my mind! Imo, he is the poet laureate of our generation and makes our mutual home state look a little less red, lol 😘😻

  12. Andrea says:

    This guy is so gross. I’m glad she called him out. I think this kind of manipulation is very common. Glad she got out.

  13. monsy says:

    To think this man made an entire album cover of 1989. I wonder what happened there. Because there was even a very interesting a blind item at Lainey Gossip…
    Anyway, the good thing is that Mandy Moore finally left him and she seems super happy now, and her career is back on track.

    • Aeren says:

      Tell us more about this blind item please!

    • Lulu says:

      Was this the blind that said Taylor and Ryan had an affair?

      • Beatrix says:

        Basically, yes. Supposedly, they had a fling sometime around when they were both at late night show. “She and her playing partner have been having problems for a while. They’ve been trying hard to work it out. But that might not turn out so well if she finds out that he hooked up with a much more successful song girl, someone with a similar early sound and origin, though that’s evolving now. Despite her many changes, contrived or organic, this was probably not the intended image.”

      • Shan says:

        Pretty sure that BI was actually about Jenny Lewis. But he was weird about Taylor for sure.

    • Cay says:

      Lainey’s been on the anti-Ryan Adams bandwagon for quite some time now. Remember how she called him out for saying that Mandy Moore wasn’t “punk” enough for him?

      I’ve always disliked the way he would get so pissed because people would call out for him to sing Bryan Adams songs in concert. He said nasty things about Bryan Adams. I’m not a BA fan, but have some respect for other musicians, especially the elder musicians.

      • jenn12 says:

        He is vile. He went on some twitter rant about how she didn’t like the Melvins and never saw Blade Runner, and how he never wrote any songs about her, and he was too stoned to realize he was marrying her and then was horrified. He said being married to her was like being with a spiritual equivalent of soggy cardboard. Basically, he acted as though he were too good for her, and somehow got stuck with her. He is a narcissist, manipulative and evil to the core. Even his last statement shows that. I’m glad he knows punk; that doesn’t matter when you treat women like crap. He also chases teenaged girls for sexual photographs, gets caught and tries to lie his way out of the evidence, or makes smarmy statements about them. He is the musical equivalent of Trump. He doesn’t get a pass. He reminds me of John Mayer.

  14. wendywoo says:

    I am reminded of a line from Bad Times at the El Royale:

    “Let me guess, it’s some man who talks- a lot- and he talks so much that he thinks he believes in something when really, he just wants to f%ck who he wants to f%ck. I’ve seen it enough, I’m not even mad about it anymore- I’m just tired. I’m just bored…. A fragile little man preying on the weak and lost”

    Why can’t the music/work be the focus and reward for these guys- not just a cynical vehicle for living out some schoolboy incel-compensating psychodrama?

  15. Lucy2 says:

    Ugh. I do like some of his music, but have long suspected he’s a jerk. This clearly goes beyond that though, and he’s an abusive a-hole.
    I’m really glad Mandy got away, and that she and the other women are not afraid to speak out. Hopefully this puts out a warning to all other women out there, and an end to his gross manipulations.

  16. CES says:

    He has that incel look to him

  17. ojulia123 says:

    Phoebe Bridgers has a song that is (allegedly) about him called, “Motion Sickness” and it’s amazing.

  18. Mrs. Smith says:

    20 years ago I had friends who worked with him. They were so excited to get his attention and potentially be “seen” in music by their association with him. That is, until he took credit for several of their songs/riffs/lyrics and then ghosted them completely. It’s possible that he’s done this to everyone he’s worked with since the beginning of his career. He deserves to be exposed as a manipulative nut case. Good for Mandy for speaking out!

  19. It’sjustblanche says:

    I don’t know who he is!!!

    Am I that uncool?

    • Louisa says:

      Other than Mandy Moore I don’t know any of the people mentioned here! And I’m fine with that!

    • Cranberry says:

      Not a unicorn. I’ve never heard any of his music either. I’m with @Louisa on this one. Just gotta comment on how beautiful Mandy is though. It’s shocking that someone that had so much going for her, career, fame, exceptional beauty, would fall prey to a pos like this.

  20. launicaangelina says:

    For the longest time, when I read his name, I saw Bryan Adams. I was confused for years. He’s gross.

    • TQB says:

      I feel like we should all take pains to distinguish this jerk from Lovely Canadian Heartthrob of My Youth Bryan Adams.

  21. outoftheshadows says:

    Bet he’s sorry he made that nasty tweet a few months ago about Mandy Moore. He’s going down.

  22. Case says:

    Good for them for speaking out. Mandy seems like a sweetheart and I completely believe her.

  23. Kitten says:

    I forgot that he dated Parker Posey. But let’s be real here: we all knew something bad went down between him and Mandy Moore and she more than hinted at abuse so this is no surprise. Even the way he acted recently towards her just screamed Possessive Incel Douche.

    I’m glad these women are banding together to support one another and I’m glad they’re getting the word out about this terrible abuser. Hopefully other women will take heed.

  24. Lizzie says:

    he was the worst way before mandy moore married him. this guy has had nothing but negative rumors and insane behavior his entire career. a decade ago he published a desperate poem on gawker to writer jessica joffe when she blocked him. he also was a lunatic on myspace back then. so i am in no way surprised what a douche he is or that he is a pedophile. soliciting a 14 year old for nudes means he would have acted on it and he should go directly to jail. i bet money she’s not the only one.

    • osito says:

      Thank you for remembering all that craziness from the aughts! I thought I was mis-remembering things with my vague sense of “Hasn’t he always been a manipulative jerk in his personal relationships…and possibly professional relationships too?” Didn’t something also come out fairly recently about how he was enabling/encouraging the addiction of a member of The Strokes.

  25. Arpeggi says:

    The sexting a 14yo and grossing her out of ever pursuing a musical career is certainly the worst. I mean, I’m glad for all his exes that they got out of their relationships with that a-hole, but god dammit! Sexting a kid and sort of asking her to lie about her age to please you? That’s so gross and damaging!

    I’m glad I never liked him, I always put him in the same box of douche-bros like John Mayer. Phoebe Bridgers’ awesome though

    • Scal says:

      Via his lawyer he’s denying that he knew she was underage. Not the sexting or creepy texing-just that he didn’t know she was 14. Except NY time has the text messages and it’s pretty clear he knew.

      He’s disgusting.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        When you compare yourself to R. Kelly and ask the girl to keep the interactions a secret, it’s pretty obvious you know she’s underage!

      • Arpeggi says:

        Oh yeah, for sure he knew! From what the messages sound like, he seemed to ask her to confirm she wasn’t a child only so that if/when he’d be called out, he could say “but she told me she was 18!”. Nah dude, you knew, you knew you were skyping in the nude with a kid.

  26. lobstah says:

    Oh man, this hits a major nerve. My ex was extremely emotionally abusive and so manipulative and I just hung on for years. I am SO glad to see Mandy Moore is removed enough to speak out about him. That’s so admirable.

    • Spicecake38 says:

      Been there @lobstah,I stayed for five years ,so grateful I found the strength to leave,so glad you did too.I will never understand verbally and emotionally abusive men,except to say I guess they are so insecure deep down,they keep their women by making them feel so bad that they believe nobody else would want them.
      My ex told on himself once without knowing,we were going out,I tried to look pretty ,and I did,he looked at me and said something awful,but then he laughed and said *inferiority complex much *I knew what he was doing,but he actually admitted it,ugh no douche YOU have the inferiority complex because you’re a harry,pale,googly eyed troll with skinny legs a a big gut.
      It’s crazy how abusers can gain control.Wishing you the very best!

      • lobstah says:

        Hi @Spicecake38! I’m so glad you got away from him – my ex was also nothing to look at but I mistook manipulation for confidence. It actually takes a lot more confidence to be kind. Learned that from my now-husband 🙂 I wish YOU the best too!

  27. megs283 says:

    Oh Mandy. So glad she’s free of that psycho. She has a real talent and she does seem like an authentic soul…she was my favorite of the fab four pop teens in the 90s/early 2000s. The article ends with her saying that she’s looking forward to making more music. I will definitely buy it to support her!

  28. Cindy says:

    It breaks my heart to know Mandy had to go through this. I’ve always been a huge fan, she’s always seemed so nice and humble. I’m glad she got out at least and is getting a ton of work. She’s so talented.

  29. Veronica S. says:

    I always thought his behavior during his temporary split with Mandy said everything – between demeaning her vocation to emotionally manipulating her to win her back.

  30. Claire says:

    I absolutely love his music and this is so devastating to read. I’m well aware of his (past – though apparently still present) mental health/drug abuse issues but this is just…so disappointing. Reading the NYT article made me feel like I was reading about my ex. Oh Ryan…

  31. minx says:

    Not really surprised at this.

  32. Adrien says:

    None of my twitter friends knew who Ryan Adams is till today. I have to explain it’s not our Canadian sweetheart and he covered Tay’s whole 1989 album. At least a few only knew him as Mandy Moore’s ex. And these were people who knew a lot of 90s and present day alt rockers. I don’t think he knows he’s not that great. You could see people staunchly defending Michael Jackson after the docu but Ryan’s not getting any support not even from those anti- metoo people. I guess he’s not really a loss or the NYT article didn’t really shock anyone.

  33. Onlyashes says:

    I’ve never heard one of his songs before this and had to actually think about who he was. I never understood how he bagged the amazing Mandy Moore. He sounds beyond gross. Every woman knows at least one guy like this. They hide behind a facade of being so edgy and deep and misunderstood when really it boils down to them just being manipulative and an emotional vampire.

    Also, not at all trying to thread jack but a few weeks ago Kaiser mentioned a book profiling abusers and patterns of abuse. I can’t for the life of me remember the name of it. Can someone help me? Thanks in advance!

  34. sassafras says:

    I knew there was something off when he re-did 1989. He couldn’t let a young woman have her artistic triumph. He had to insert himself into it and doing it with “i’m such a big fan” on his lips which manipulates Taylor and the world into thinking he’s a good, supportive ally.

    Nope.

  35. savu says:

    A friend of mine (man in his 40s) has always been a Ryan Adams superfan. He said he “wasn’t surprised” by all the shady emotional abuse, but said the thing with the teenager is fucked up. And that he needs to come clean, but this won’t hurt his career much. JFC I hope he’s wrong. Of course Ryan Adams isn’t the worst offender in the music industry. That is irrelevant. Not okay, period. #boybye
    P.s. somebody needs to figure out “coming clean” better than Louis CK did – admitting you did wrong, apologizing, then staying away for a while instead of showing back up before this world is ready to give you a second chance. Forgiveness is not owed to you. Earn it.

  36. TQB says:

    Can we just cancel this douche and replace him with BRYAN Adams? Because that guy is awesome.

  37. Sam says:

    He looks like Steve Buscemi’s character in 30 Rock saying, “How do you do, fellow kids?”

  38. Nicegirl says:

    I KNEW this dude was a barfbag.

  39. Fluffy Princess says:

    I know that in Hollywood there are two sides to every celebrity brake up — but in the case of Mandy M and SuperDouche here, I always thought it was him and not her. And now, as Captain Hold of Brooklyn Nine-Nine would say, “Viiiiiinnnnndicaaaationnn!!!” Douche-bro status confirmed.

  40. Michael says:

    Who has been heralding him as a musical genius for decades anyway? Does he have any hits or anything like that? Have barely heard of him, thought he was just a one hit wonder or something. A musical genius huh?

  41. LT says:

    My ex has a collection of hipster friends who were big fans of his – and I remember hearing they had gone to his concert and saying something to the effect of, “wow! I didn’t realize Bryan Adams was touring! I loved ‘Summer of ‘69’ back in the day.” What a look of disdain – I was tragically unhip and very corporate and not nearly as cool or as artistic as they were. 🙂

  42. SpillDatT says:

    I always thought like most ppl that he came off as a pretentious d-bag when Mandy & he divorced. I’m so glad she has the chance now to speak up.

    As for the rest of his victims, my god, who else is there? A 14-yr old? Criminal. Criminal. Criminal.

    What frustrates me the most about victims coming out is how many women and maybe, men as well, gave up on their dreams because some uppity, gross predator manipulated them mentally as well as physically violated them? Yet, men, and a few women, will always maintain that the victims are doing it for money & attention.

    What money? And what attention do victims receive?

    They lose their passions or jobs. They become the “difficult to work with” people, not the abusers. That’s money lost & unwanted scrutiny.

    That’s what they receive.

    SMH.

  43. Cricket says:

    I comment rarely but felt the need to add my 2c to this one. I don’t know any Ryan Adam’s music but have always had a poor impression of him as a person for multiple reasons:

    – the stories of how the Strokes considered him a bad influence on Albert Hammond jr and told RA to leave him alone & stop giving him drugs https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/05/the-strokes-talk-problems-with-ryan-adams.html

    – how when he broke up with Mandy Moore way back (late 2000s? Pre their marriage I think) he released a statement saying it was so he could stay “punk as f#ck” – douche alert

    – the story about him cracking the shits when someone shouted “play Summer of ‘69!!” at him at a concert which is objectively funny & his reaction (I think he said he needed therapy?) suggests someone who is precious and humourless.

    Wow I have way too much brain space wasted on this guy (aka 15 years of reading gossip blogs 😂)

  44. J.Mo says:

    If you look up Ryan Adams and the word “feud” there’s several more reasons to be disgusted by his narcissism. He’s so disrespectful of others.

  45. J.Mo says:

    If you look up Ryan Adams and the word “feud” there’s several more reasons to be disgusted by him. He’s so disrespectful of other musicians and a narcissist.

  46. Kebbie says:

    How on earth did this guy pull Parker Posey and Mandy Moore? He looks like an angry little man.

  47. Justjj says:

    His music is the reheated Taco Bell leftovers of that early 00s Americana indie. And he is King of the Buttwipes. I literally don’t know one cool person who likes this douche’s music. His music sounds like a Hollister clearance rack. WHY do people think he has taste or take career advice from Ryan Adams??? Not surprised at all since every dude who wore flip flops to school every day in high school loved this stalagturd.

  48. jennifer says:

    she also dated wilmer valderama..girl love yourself

  49. Cleo17 says:

    I know that when I was in school and sex education was actually sex education and not “pass around a dirty piece of tape which is symbolic of your slutty vagina” , abusive relationships were talked about. Like what signs to watch for, what to do if you thought you or one of your friends was in an abusive relationship. Since our state doesn’t value sex ed, I am going to be attending a training class for our church’s sex education program. (FYI – it’s called Our Whole Lives and our church, the UCC, and the Unitarian church have offered this class in the past. It’s beyond phenomenal.)

    I also think it’s ridiculous how people spend so much time lamenting over the genius of these men and how sad it is that their catalog of work has been spoiled and how tragic it is that we might not get the opportunity for more art from them. Instead, I’d like people to think about the women affected by these men. How much genius has been lost because these girls and women have been harassed and assaulted? How many voices of their generation have had their voice silenced? Several of the women that were harassed by Adams quit music because of what happened to them. What kind of art could they have produced? Maybe it would be nice if people focused on that rather than the douchebags that did these things to them.