Much like the split of the Sussexes and Cambridges’ households, the split of the Royal Foundation was telegraphed for months before it actually happened. And much like the household split, I expect that royal reporters and British tabloids will use the foundation split as a jumping-off point for weeks of stories about the Sussex-Cambridge “feud.” If we’re really lucky, we’ll get to hear about how Meghan made Kate cry again and how Kate Will Be Queen and Meghan is a DIVA. Or, you know, the tabloids could actually focus on the brothers’ falling out, but whatever. As we’ve been previewing all week, the split for the Royal Foundation happened this week. William and Harry formalized it yesterday in a meeting for the foundation. And here’s the confirmation:
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are to formally split from their joint charity with the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and set up their own foundation. The Royal Foundation confirmed the news on Thursday, explaining that the split marks the final step in Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s division of the couples’ public duties.
Prince William and the Duchess of Sussex will remain with the original charity, which will be renamed the Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. The Foundation stated that the decision was made following the conclusion of a review into its structure. It continued, adding that both couples will continue to work together in the future, including on the Heads Together mental health campaign.
The decision was taken to “better align” their charitable activities, it said.
Again, all of this was widely assumed for months, basically as soon as the Sussexes announced that they were leaving Kensington Palace and getting their own “household” (meaning their own dedicated communications office), we all said that the Royal Foundation would be next, and that it couldn’t function with both couples. So the Royal Foundation becomes dedicated solely to the Cambridges and now the Sussexes will begin their own charity/foundation/banner. Which was always how it was going to be, honestly, but again – tabloids gonna ‘bloid, and I expect a new round of rumors about all of this sh-t.
Richard Palmer says that the Sussexes will likely launch their own foundation later this year, and that the official explanation of “well, the brothers just have different positions because William Will Be King” doesn’t really tell the whole story:
Royal sources say this is a natural consequence of the two couples creating separate households and having “divergent” paths ahead of them with the Cambridges more restricted in what they can do. It’s not an argument that has convinced everyone.
— Richard Palmer (@RoyalReporter) June 20, 2019
Rebecca English’s take:
It’s certainly NOT what was being briefed 14 months or so ago (although, to be fair, the Fab Four wasn’t a palace creation). And it’s clear something fundamental has changed.
— Rebecca English (@RE_DailyMail) June 20, 2019
Here’s the full palace statement. You know what sucks? That all of this had to happen during Meghan’s maternity leave. I really do feel like the Cambridges were the ones pushing for this split to happen NOW, and the Sussexes wanted to just focus on the baby right now.
The full palace statement on why William and Kate, Harry and Meghan are going separate ways when it comes to the Royal Foundation pic.twitter.com/cfEi1heowT
— Rhiannon Mills (@SkyRhiannon) June 20, 2019
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Backgrid and WENN.
Whether they work together or work separately, I will be completely amazed if either the Cambridge’s or Sussex’s did much real work.
None of them, with the exception of Meghan, has any idea what “real” work is, let’s be honest. A case could be made the brothers know a bit of it due their military service.
I think that’s why it was easy for Meghan to surprise everyone and “hit the ground running.” She probably looked at her schedule, raised an eyebrow and thought to herself, all this charity work is what I managed to do around my actual job.
We’ll see if that remains the case as she settles into the royal family and motherhood.
Seriously! Meghan’s pre-engagement schedule would have had me keeling over at 3 pm. 14 hour shoots, blogging, networking, doing charity and philanthropic work – not to mention when she was dating Harry doing a transatlantic flight every two weeks (which take a lot out of me, I can’t imagine doing that so frequently). Kate would be in hospital in intensive care by the end of a single week at this pace.
I’m hoping Meghan will continue.
I’m surprised you don’t consider 10 years of active military service (including 2 tours) real work. That’s quite harsh.
Signing off on something that has been in the works for a year is not taking Meghan away from her maternity leave. She didn’t even have to go to the meeting.
Let’s not act like having a baby renders an intelligent, capable woman unable to think about anything other than feeding her baby. She’s taking time out from work, not from all rational thought and decision-making.
Suddenly being an actress and lifestyle blogger is the definition of knowing what real work is? I should come back to a Goop or Blake Lively post someday and see if that standard now applies to them.
Most professional bloggers have people on their staff managing/editing the blog posts. It was the same with the Tig, so I honestly doubt she was churning out multiple posts a week on the Tig and on the Tig IG by herself. I do know Meghan did a few charity trips, but this is the first I’m hearing about the philanthropy. I didn’t know Meghan contributed to the philanthropy world by herself, what were the causes?
@fanny – I think being an actress on a show like Suits is hard work. It’s work that many people would love to have, but I don’t think its easy. and it shows at the very least that she knows how to maintain a schedule, show up regularly for a job, etc. Those seem like obvious things to many of us, but when you look at *ahem* some other royals, its clear that its not so obvious.
Maria…LOL!!
@Fanny, no, but Meghan wasn’t born with a silver spoon in her mouth. She obviously do know what real work is because she hasn’t been rich and famous her entire life. For most of her life prior to “Suits” she was a bit-part actress, meaning that she had to have had other jobs to help support herself. That is probably how she got the work ethic she has today, which is what people here are praising.
@HayaR, I think the majority of professional Bloggers personally maintain their blogs. All it takes is an active mind and a knack for writing.
@Bella I consider military service in a class of its own because it is highly regimented. It is in no way comparable to civilian jobs. I said a case could be made because some would try to draw the parallels.
Meghan has always known how to work. That is the point.
And 14 hour days of shooting on tv are still hard. Harry mentioned how she would come off an 8 hour transatlantic flight and go straight into shooting, maybe it’s just me but after security and the leg cramps of an international flight all I want to do is plotz, personally. Running a blog like the Tig still took time and work and I’m sure she oversaw all of it. She networks a lot, as well – I remember the youtube video of her jumping into the cab for a little makeup tutorial with Bobbi Brown and she was talking about the meetings she was in, to talk about potential roles. And yes, took trips to places like Delhi, Mumbai, Rwanda, Dublin, and Ottawa for various charity and philanthropic purposes.
Sounds like a busy schedule to me.
It’s basically just a big scam at this point – they live in palaces, live in incredible luxury off the public purse, and do some charity work to appease the public…and we too often fall for it.
I don’t believe the “living in incredible luxury” claim. Only on official events do they wear expensive clothes. The cars are hired and I doubt that they use the complete palaces they are living in. They have a certain amount of rooms and that is about it. They do not use that expensive china or the old and precious furniture. These are the rooms for receptions and interviews, but they do not live in these rooms. Outside of official events they dress in cheaper clothes. I saw Prince Charles with patched up suits and remember Harry’s hole in the sole. The Queen wears old skirts and blouses and also Meghan wears jeans and T-Shirts.
It’s all an illusion.
They *literally* live in palaces….
OriginalLala I totally agree. These adult humans are beyond lucky with their lifestyles. Beyond lucky. I would LOVE to have a landscaped, lighted garden and a yoga studio in my home. XO Oh, and to be able to “borrow” art from The Queen for my home?? Not to mention “the help”. Yoikes.
I do believe thought that Meghan really loves doing charity work. I do believe that.
*blink blink*
Thank you. I enjoy royal gossip and fashion but they are all pampered poodles. Nothing they do is “work.”
Living in luxury isn’t just about whether they use the rooms of the palace and use fine china – it can easily refer to the fact that they don’t have to “really” work, can never be fired, have household staff, no worries about money – etc.
Absolutely Wonderful news for The Sussex’s! So happy for Harry and Meghan.
They are Out of KP which is lousy with PR , IMO and now their own foundation.
Happy for the Sussex’s .
These are both great moves for them – the new Household at BP and a separate Foundation. This little light of mine, I’m gonna let it shine.
As a practical matter, what does this mean? I am not that familiar with how charitable organizations like this are run in general. I assume the foundation raises money for various charities, right? So does this mostly mean that the couples will have more control over how to raise money and where it goes?
Good question! I was wondering the same thing …
Charles created a small endowment for the foundation and they fundraise from the private sector for foundation-based initiatives and for grants to charities.
Given that the Cambridges are focused on mental health and the Sussex want to create a more international portfolio, it makes sense to separate the foundations. It’s hard for a small foundation to be effective if it has too many priorities.
Harry is the one who first started the mental health work years ago. Once he got good PR, then W&K starting looking at mental health.
William became interested in mental health when his first air ambulance mission was for an attempted suicide. He’s talked about it on numerous occasions.
IIRC William, Harry and Kate all have stories to tell regarding what sparked their interest in mental health. According to Harry and William, Heads Together itself was Kate’s idea.
The name “Head’s Together” not the actual initiative aaa.
William said (Harry said nothing at that time) during that 1st annual forum, that both Him and Harry had already formulated the idea of the mental health initiative but we’re still trying to work out what to call it. This was way before even William and Kate married. After the Cambridge marriage, Kate came up with the name of the initiative, that’s what WILLIAM, not Harry, said.
Question for British readers/other royal experts: Where does a royal charitable foundation get its funding from – gov’t, public fundraising, royal coffers…? I’m just curious because it’s clear where other foundations like Gates, Bloomberg et. al. get their money but how do the royals fund their charitable initiatives?
The Royal coffers? Haha! Never! It’s mostly a mix of corporate, public, private donors, etc.
This was perfect timing it will give Prince Harry and his wife time to reflect on everything and let the RF continue w/o them so they can get a clearer picture of what they should focus on before creating their own foundation. Side note: Prince William looks dapper in that photo and I think the blue in Kates dress pops even more than in previous photos and it’s gorgeous.
“His wife” has a name. Meghan. Meghan is her name. She is an individual with her own agency outside of her marriage to Harry. I notice you didn’t refer to Kate as “William’s wife.”
Thank you. Ignoring Meghan’s existence won’t make her disappear.
Noticed that too, Mrs. B.
The Sussexes already have their defined roles and topics that they’ve been focusing on. It’s certainly been clearer with them than with Harry’s brother and his wife, who’ve had 8 years to get their act together and still seem to be flailing a bit.
Exactly, Harry and Meghan have more freedom and know their roles. They’re honestly in a better position.
i guess we know what couple you like. harry and his wife meghan do exist – try and remember her name
She’s talking about Kate and William here. (no offense meant with the ‘she’ moniker).
I don’t think she meant to leave Meg out… she didnt say anything bad against her she just said they could cut out a clearer picture which is fine.
I talk about the fashion and the drama but let’s all that a little tip from John Oliver and remember that none of these people actually work, “a bunch of fundamentally flawed humans doing a very silly psuedo job”
The fact that all of this is happening during Meg’s maternity leave really bothers me. None of it is surprising or unexpected, but they can’t just leave this poor woman alone during her maternity leave to enjoy her first born child? Its messed up.
Oh, enough. They split their households officially over six months ago and whether people like to admit it or not, there is a lot of $$ tied up in the royal foundation plus joint initiatives and charities they can’t just leave twisting in the wind with uncertainty. Given all of that, it shouldn’t be that surprising that the H&M argument, “we just don’t feel like dealing with this right now” didn’t work. The world doesn’t stop turning because one woman has a baby. Honestly.
It certainly feels like the world has to stop when Kate is pregnant…no one expected her to work hard during her pregnancies because of morning sickness, she was left alone by the press, no one hammered her, and she got to enjoy her maternity leave. None of that was extended to Meghan. The difference is astounding. Meghan can handle it, she’s a big girl. But it’s disrespectful just the same. Also, I’m looking forward to seeing what The Sussexes do…there are already two huge charities that Harry will bring with him and Meghan had success with Together, the cookbook.
I hope the Cambridges do good work too, it’s what is expected of them. See: Prince Charles and the Prince’s Trust
I’m not sure what they’re asking Meghan to do, or how it affects her leave. The lawyers and whoever are the ones who are going to do the work, as is the case in all foundations and charities. Nor was she expected to do anything on leave, so in some ways the timing is good – the lawyers etc can set up the legal framework and the foundation can get its bearings while she’s on leave.
One day of news articles isn’t going to ruin her maternity leave.
It could be Harry and Meghan wanted to split this from the beginning, W&K didn’t want to so pushed back and tried to keep it together. Like the attempt to keep Harry and Meghan under KP control but with a pseudo “separate household”. William tried to stop that, HM and CHarles stepped in to fund the new Household out of BP.
Now it has come to a head and we get the new spin that no, it is W&K wanting the split right now. Once again looks like William trying to claim credit for a decision that was made without him and against his wishes.
A split was always going to happen but given the ham fisted way this has been handled its rather obvs that it was done in a hurry amid tensions. The last para in the statement is interesting, it only exalts the Cambridges. Also interesting is the way the Invictus Games is presented, like it was the idea of everyone involved in the Foundation when it was just Harry.
Sentebale and Invictus are Harry’s. If William tried to claim them now, even the idiot RRs might admit William was poaching Harry’s projects. I can see William trying it out of desperation, but not him getting away with it.
I hope that William is not that stupid to pull a stunt like that but then again, Einstein he ain’t and I can see a PR spin out of desperation.
I can def see this new Cambridge RF folding in a year or 2 esp as I can’t see the Cambridges actually doing more to generate money for it.
Digital Unicorn & Nota – I agree…. I thought the IG was Harry’s initiative without any involvement from W&K or Royal Foundation. Are the Cambridge’s really now trying to take credit for that as well? They want their names attached to IG because its been such a huge success, much more than RF ever has been…
I think if they try to keep IG with the Cambridge royal foundation it would be a PR disaster. I think at that point the queen and Charles would both step in. Harry would not go quietly into the night with that one.
I hope Ed Sheeran is available to help with fundraising for the Foundation.
About time this happened. Hopefully Harry and Meghan’s charities/projects are smoothly phased over to their new foundation.
I do love that people on Twitter are calling out the asinine explanation that the Cambridges “have a more restrictive path” in comparison to the Sussexes “working with brands like Apple TV”. William is working with Netflix. Charles has done decades of unique work as the heir.
I’m wondering about the restrictive path thing, too. Does The Prince’s Trust receive money from international sources or form partnerships with international companies? I’ve seen a few RR imply the Sussexes want to look to America for donations and partnerships, and they do seem to be highlighting a number of US companies and charities on Instagram. Maybe the restrictions are in the form of where the money comes from and how it’s collected—that it’s not acceptable for the Cambridges to take a ton of money from international sources that could be looking to influence them down the line, or collect speaking fees, or work with certain companies or people who could cause them PR embarrassments down the line?
I find that super odd, too. Like, I think it means Will and Kate don’t want to touch the more “hot button” topics.
This is also my take.
It seems like the crap Kate said when she skipped the Irish Guards. She doesn’t want there to be any “expectation” that she’ll consistently show up. This “restrictive” nonsense is just so they don’t have to give any kind of explanation for the work they’re not going to do.
Or it will continue as it has. Kate’s “lifelong passion project” has involved Catherine Quinn getting people to show up at meetings, Kate doesn’t attend, Foundation takes credit for accomplishing and changing nothing.
Exactly! Always felt Meghan and Harry were putting in the work, so why have those two leeching off their accomplishments. Split it up and let each stand on their on feet.
So Happy for Harry and Meghan.
Why are Will and Kate so limited/restricted in what they focus on when Charles and Camila don’t seem to be?
Charles isn’t, William just choose to be
Exactly. Just more excuse making for W&K.
The appearance of influence is much different for William than Harry and Meghan. The Sussex will have more flexibility in who they can and will take money from. I would imagine that is a significant factor in separating the foundations.
In 25-30 years from now. Is this going to be William’s excuse for everything for the next 20 years?
Charles was criticized for years for his meddling and funding of vanity projects.
They aren’t. Charles has done amazing work in the UK and also with expanding the Prince’s Trust to other places. Charles and Camilla work on her brother’s Elephant Family conservation charity. I don’t see William stepping away from supporting Jecca’s favorite charity, Tusk Trust. That isn’t focused on helping animals in the UK now is it?
The “restriction” line is another excuse to cover W&K’s laziness.
Charles has more flexibility because he has a massive income and is less reliant on outside donors. The Cambridges and Sussex have to raise the money for their foundations, which means they have to focus on projects that will attract funders.
But its not like Charles is funding the Trust out of his income from the Duchy of Cornwall. It was said below that he started it with his military pension and its reliant on outside donors as well. (ahem Clooneys ahem.)
To not focus on the work they pretend they are doing?
But are so keen to study more about?
Yeah, all that researching, and learning, and studying must be exhausting. So, much so, it’s damn-near caused a work stoppage at KP over the past 7-8 years. And, here someone had the nerve to fix their fingers and type some twisted sh*t that Meghan needs to listen and learn. Maybe she should just quietly “work” behind the scenes and do research for a few years. Better yet, do nothing at all, since anything positive she does is slighted or denied by the RRs and stalkers.
Its spin to explain away their laziness – Charles started the Princes Trust in his 20s and has taken it onto do some amazing things. Same goes for the Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme, Phil set that up a few years after The Queen ascended her throne meaning he was Prince Consort when he started it.
I am bored of the excuses punted around for the future future King and future future Queen Consort. Future should ALWAYS be x2 at this point.
Philip has also been part of a Gordonstoun scholarship program since the 1950s. It was recently re-named for him and Anne is taking over as the royal patron.
This is very much needed and I’m dying at the panic of RR’s. The foundation was only thing linking the Sussexes to KP and the Cambridge’s, basically their gossip sources and now the Sussexes are totally in control and the gossip chain is broken. Leaving KP, getting their Instagram, PR team and starting their own Foundation was the best thing for them. Keep thriving and moving forward because it’s clear that many are against them or intimidated by them.
Absolutely spot on. I love this news.
Congratulations to Harry and Meghan. Looking forward to their foundation.
Ditto!
This split may highlight W&K’s lack of involvement and commitment to their claimed charities.
I think it very much will.
This was a bit strategic by Prince William- push for the split when energies are split due to major life changes. Keep everything except the restricted funds for the other initiatives. Almost like a modern day blitz. Why else expedite the split when everyone else wants to take time to make a decision?
I think the Royal Foundation has a lot of potential to do great things and I’m curious about the things they want to announce next. 2020 seems to be interesting for them, with the results of Kate’s task force, the Netflix special on Tusk, Shout, etc. Plus, 2020 marks the end of the Nursing Now campaign Kate helped launch a few years ago. So, there seems like there is a lot set up in order to have a good breakout year in terms of their charity work.
Sounds like William couldn’t stop the split from happening, so KP is trying to spin it as something W&K wanted to happen. Same tune, different day.
Shout is a joint project from all four, doesn’t belong to W&K.
Tusk isn’t under the Royal Foundation nor is William heading up the program. He is said to make a brief appearance, like he has done for previous PR videos for Tusk.
The Nursing Now campaign for which she did what, two appearances?
LOL, ” a good breakout year.” It would be nice if, after 8 years of marriage, 9 years in 2020, they manage to have a good breakout year. I hear they are very keen.
Keen to study ways in which they can keep doing nothing and taking credit. Won’t work as well when Harry and Meghan have moved to their own foundation.
I didn’t think the Invictus Games was part of the Royal Foundation but the KP press release is saying it is. Invictus is a foundation in its own right setup by Harry and the organising committee of the London 2012 Olympic games – to me that seems like the DoLittles are trying to get credit for it.
It is separate, no matter what William might try to do. It has received funding from the Royal Foundation, like Sentebale has, but they’re both independent charities. If William tries to take Invictus, there would/will be a public fight. The Endeavour Fund, also related to veterans, is part of the Foundation and I don’t know how that will play out.
“They’re busy doing nothing working the whole day through, trying to find lots of things not to do” that song fits the Cambridge’s perfectly…
I’m going to make predictions. The foundation will split up the major programs like this:
Conservation, Mental Health, and Early Years, going to the Cambridges.
Services, Young People, and Empowering Community going to the Sussexes.
People will jump ship when they find out they’ve been allocated to team HM and they will make headlines initially for floundering. Meaghan will try to take on movements in addition to charities.
There will be spies in both camps for a while and it will be messy.
Personally I think Harry may have pushed for the split while his much disliked wife is away so that he can talk to people about joining his new foundation w/o her presence which seems to have a very negative affect on employees and staff.
That last paragraph is awfully telling of you “Dark and Stormy”.
@R It’s mostly telling of how I interpret the media reports on her. She does not sound like she has been embraced in her new country. I genuinely don’t think people like her. Do you think people love her over there?
In the last scientific poll taken, people in the UK generally think she’s fine. She doesn’t have as high an approval rating as the Queen or HWK, but most people are either indifferent to her or like her. Very few people over here care much about the royals either way.
Why would they jump ship from HM? Cambridge really don’t do anything with their charities besides show up for an occasional photo op
Why are you so incapable of saying Meghan’s name? Please explain it. You’re showing yourself with each new sentence. You may as well just be out with it.
ETA: I see you actually did use her name first this time – misspelled, but then went back to “his disliked wife.”
Please explain why you think she’s so “disliked.”
*Meghan
I don’t recall reading anything anywhere either in British or American news/gossip that Meghan is liked much less loved by the brits. In particular her work ethic seems to get called out and she is routinely blamed and maligned as far as I have read.
I think it’s totally appropriate to refer to her as Harry’s wife in my first post because that’s how I see her in this situation. Honestly I hope she sits down and lets Harry take the lead in terms of putting a new foundation together. This would be a good time for her to listen and learn.
Dark and Stormy – Meghan doesn’t need to let anyone take the lead, she’s an extraordinarily capable woman who will probably take the lead in various areas of their charitable work. She doesn’t need to listen and learn and, despite your opinion to the contrary, Meghan has star power like Diana and she and Harry are becoming a far more powerful draw than the Cambridges. I’m not sure what media sources you’re quoting, if any at all, about her not being liked but I’m sure your personal bias plays a big part.
@Dark and Stormy – That’s funny. Because I thought that countries all over the world were asking for Harry and HIS WIFE MEGHAN to visit them. Their post-wedding tour was a HUGE success. Trump’s grifters were mad to get a picture with Harry and HIS WIFE MEGHAN.
I was born in England and a lot of my family live there. None of them are as royalty-mad as Americans seem to be but they all seem to be intrigued by HARRY’S WIFE MEGHAN, which is more that can be said about the rest of the Royal Family. They’re interested to see what effect a bi-racial American woman will have on an institution they don’t care that much about.
I find it impossible to believe that ANYBODY is criticizing HARRY’S WIFE MEGHAN’S work ethic with William’s wife setting such a crap example. HARRY’S WIFE MEGHAN, hit the ground running and helped produce a cookbook that made tons of money for charity. William’s wife put her name on a garden other people built.
I think HARRY’S WIFE MEGHAN has listened and learned. More importantly Harry has listened and learned. He’s learned the people who are a threat to his wife MEGHAN and his son Archie. He’s also learned how he can make a difference without having his efforts co-opted by his lazy brother and his lazy brother’s wife.
Harry has also seen how NOT to get caught sticking his dick in some strange,
Samantha, is that you? Go back to the dark and stormy hole that your life must be 🙂
+10000
Hello samantha !!!
Unless Harry sits back and let’s the Cambridges take ownership of his projects, yr predictions are way off. Conservation is Harry’s thing (consider prince Harry president of African Parks), mental health is Harry’s initiative he’s expanding his work on this working with Oprah so, unless prince Harry just says hey take these two initiatives, the Cambridges aren’t keeping conservation not Mental health. I believe the Cambridges are going to need to roll up their sleeves and start working. That’s MVHO.
@Salvation I kind of can’t wait to see how that goes. I really do think William will take conservation and Kate will want mental health but I could be all wrong.
Whatever!1, I’m gonna wait to make any predictions on any of this, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens. I really don’t see why they would split up only to end up working together on some projects but I could be wrong. The statement also claims IG as a joint venture (which IMO, that’s just misleading the masses) but that couldnt be any further from the truth. I guess we’ll wait and see who takes what, but I don’t see them.couples working together on anything from here forward.
Dark and Stormy, I’m gonna wait and see who takes what. As I already said conservation is Harry’s thing. Other than what William has contributed to Jecca’s thing, William is not that invested in conservation as Harry is. I’m also very curious to see what you think Kate would do with Heads Together, if at all she asks to take it on but, maybe she’ll surprise the skeptic in me, shrugs. But if history is an indication, I don’t see Kate even attempting to take on anything other than birthing William kids, again I’ll wait and see.
With you there, Salvation. Kate doesn’t WANT to do anything even remotely resembling work. She will do what she is forced to and that’s it.
tumblr misses you.
Conservation is Harry’s thing and has been for years. Harry was the first to start working on mental health charities. It was only after he got good PR for it that W&K decided it was their thing too.
Harry and Meghan already have three big things on their list of accomplishments – Invictus and Sentebale for Harry, Together cookbook for Meghan. Now he’s co-producing the mental health series for Apple with Oprah. Next year we get Invictus this time alongside Willem-Alexander and Maxima in the Netherlands. Meghan and Maxima chatting away in Spanish will be something to see. Plus W-A and Max dressed in head-to-toe orange and cheering on athletes is pure fun.
There is plenty of need to go around, things aren’t sectioned off and only one royal allowed to work on them. Charles and Camilla are the new co-presidents of her brother’s Elephant Family conservation charity. Camilla and Meghan are both patrons of animal shelters.
Not contradicting, point out the OG’s claim that conservation is all William. But Invictus really is all Harry, William has had no part in it. If KP is trying to spin otherwise, as it appears, there will be a public fight. Really extra sh!tty of William to try to steal credit for that huge, successful, international project of Harry’s.
“Much disliked wife”?? Just because the gutter press have gone after her doesn’t mean anything. She is miles beyond the Cambridges in her work ethic and dedication to many worthy causes – she and Harry are doing what Willnot and Kannot should have been doing years ago.
@dark and stormy truth!! Lol you must be new though, don’t you know that speaking ill of our lady & savior St Meghan of Markleton around these here parts is likely to get you taken to the stocks or at the very least several paper cuts from all the ‘r’ cards that will soon be thrown your way after they run out of Will & Kate put downs
Celebitchy isn’t unique and the posters here aren’t as hostile as others I’ve encountered. I made a comment that was critical of Kate at GFY and I was told in no uncertain terms by several people that I wasn’t welcomed there and should leave,
Trying to ‘disappear’ someone is one of the oldest of the racist dog-whistles. And a whistle isn’t blown unless someone wants a response.
Hardly. We are simply stating the truth – Meghan and Harry actually work. They do meaningful work. They don’t apply their name to a twee, aristo garden that others created. We are not Meghan worshipers by any means but actually understand what it is she’s accomplishing in a very short time.
@starfish and @dark and stormy, if either of you had any legitimate complaints (not lies like she’s not listening or learning, or is so disliked charity reps don’t want to meet w/her) about Meghan, you should’ve just stated them upfront rather than going with the wordy negativity, stalker narratives, dog whistles, hyperbole, sarcasm, and tabloid *stories*. Next time you drop in, save yourselves and everyone else some time by just saying you don’t like her and you wish everyone else didn’t either, and leave it at that ’cause I doubt you’re going to recruit any new stalkers and haters here.
Let me know next time Kate actually bothers to visit EACH which is a stone’s throw from Anmer. Her lack of effort for basically everything except going to Wimbledon and this garden this one time doesn’t bode well for most charities she is supposed to care about. She’s only been like this since 2011 so maybe she’ll starting doing work after ten years of marriage?
@jaded None of them “actually work”,because it’s not work.. But whatever. And given their actual numbers,Harry can certainly “work” more, if we want to pretend William is more workshy than him.. The cookbook was a nice project with a concrete scope ,but that’s it. Let’s not act like they are the family’s workhorses,because it’s not the truth.
You may find little value in Kate’s “aristo garden” but she WAS involved in the planning and she’s trying to carry on the message in other initiatives,like partnering with a children channel.
First of all she is not much disliked ….only on the Brexit/Farage/Trump/Boris loving Daily Mail, which is full of xenophobes who hate diversity, and have not stopped choking on their bile since their fav royal married a woman with horror of horror …African heritage.
My guess is the Royal Foundation won’t last very long post split. I’d give it a year or two.
The auditors report? There’s some shade in there.
Ooh what did it say?
Yup! It sounds like a total mess.
@Digital Unicorn, it basically said that the foundation has a number of risks, including lack of direction, strategy and forward planning, adverse publicity due to taking funds from an inappropriate source, and project failure and limited impact. Plus it is spending a significant amount more than it takes in.
It’s all here, but what I said above was mostly laid out in the Risk Management section http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends48/0001132048_AC_20181231_E_C.PDF
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All I can say about any of this is that I hope that someone pulls a Diana some day and that we get a detailed, juicy tell-all explaining wtf actually happened!
I will be interested to see which foundation accomplishes the most, in real terms, over time. 😏
seriously!? that’s pathetic. The beauty of the prince’s trust, I’ve thought, is that is is the profits of the duchy of cornwall (which even then can argue is still unfair to people living in cornwall under the thumb of centuries of landed nobility) If the younger royals aren’t even putting any of their own skin/money in the game that’s pathetic and kind of disgusting. What has heads together ever done other than “Raise awareness” and distract from long established, expert/professionally researched and operated organizations in the space. The young royals fdn is hardly the Gates Foundation’s GAVI work (which immunizes 60million children globally per year), or Bloomberg’s comprehensive climate work, or The Carter Center’s anti-guinea worm work…or even the Clooney Foundation’s satellites tracking war crimes on the Sudanese border, for that matter.
The Prince’s Trust isn’t funded by the Duchy of Cornwall. Charles started it with his pension from the navy at age 28. All those concerts years ago, where Charles tried to look interested in modern music, were one of the ways he kept raising money through the years.
Great comment!
Harry and certainly Meghan know the score. The Cambridges would certainly piggy back on all of the Sussexes hard work and claim 50% ownership of work they never lifted a finger to do.
H&M are putting a stop to that before they really gear up and get going. All the plans that they have probably discussed about what they want to do will now be attributed to them alone–as it should be. Let W&K figure it out on their own. The end of the year numbers will eventually tell the tale of who did what.
FluffyPrincess, I agree, with this split the Sussex’s can now claim sole credit for their achievements and not have to share with the lazy Cambridge’s when they haven’t actually lifted a finger to help. Invictus, Sentebale and Cookbook are all Sussex, but somehow the Cambridge’s get mentioned as contributing to these huge successes by KP…? H&M definitely have to strike out on their own, that will show the world just how little the Cambridge’s do.
It’s too bad this didn’t work out and the four of them couldn’t find a way to continue to work together. This is probably a pipe dream, but my hope is that the complete household and foundation divide means people 1) will stop blaming one couple for the problems or setbacks of the other couple 2) can’t claim one couple is carrying the weight of another couple and 3) will stop with the petty credit claiming. I’ve seen all of that happening on both sides of the Cambridge/Sussex sugar divide, and I think it’ll be really interesting to see what both couples do independently.
What if William tries to take Invictus, which has always been ONLY Harry’s project, as is being alleged on here?
If William tries to take invictus, which I highly doubt he would because of the outcry, he would run it into the ground. Harry has built that organization up because he connects with the people and actually has a personality when dealing with people.
Uh… in what world would William try to take Invictus? Even if you think he’s a raging a-hole, it was spun off from The Royal Foundation and is mostly it’s own thing now as far as I can tell. It receives some financial support from the Royal Foundation/Endeavor Fund. From the report someone posted a link to above:
The Endeavour Fund has been a stakeholder in the Invictus Games since its inception, providing the initial seed capital and working in partnership with the Ministry of Defence to get the project off the ground. The Royal Foundation continues to support The Invictus Games by providing funding to Help for Heroes to support the training and delivery of the UK Armed Forces Team.
Well, William took their mother’s sapphire ring from Harry so he is no stranger to encroaching on Harry.
If William takes IG it is doomed, the attraction of it is Harry’s involvement as Harry has experienced working with wounded and injured soldiers first hand, he has lived through and witnessed what they did at their side in combat. William does not have that experience, the personality or charisma to make IG the success that it is – that is all down to Harry and his commitment to wounded servicemen & women.
Maria – good point, William gets what William wants regardless of anyone else…
@Maria If you’re set on believing the ring story is true, the other reported part of the story is that the brothers supposedly had an agreement that whoever got married first would get to use the ring if they wanted it. It’s also totally possible Harry picked that ring at age 12 and felt differently about it when Will and Kate got married 15 or so years later, or Will traded Diana’s aquamarine ring for it.
William himself said that he and Harry had an agreement about the ring and that it would ultimately go to whomever married first. The way the two of them amicably divided up the jewelry is a good example of what a healthy, supportive and cooperative relationship William and Harry used to have prior to 2018, and they should both be working on restoring that relationship.
If I was Meghan, I would be very glad not to have to wear that ring that is such a symbol of a doomed marriage. And also is hugely impractical – her’s is much prettier
I always thought the sweet part of the ring story was when Harry said the ring belonged on a someone who would be Queen of England. Since it was his mother’s and that had. Even the original idea until Charles & Diana went to hell.
Some of the excuses from the royal reporters are laughable. William and Kate are more restricted vs harry and Meghan. And they brought up that deal.with oprah. Even though willy is doing something for Netflix. Nobody admits the truth. William is lazy and does the bare minimum and his wife follows his lead 🤷♀️
I wish they would make a clear cut/ clarification of who continues with what to avoid a situation of the Royal Foundation giving funds then claiming it their project like they did with Shout. I have googled Heads Together and IMO Harry and Meghan should let it go. It seems a collection of charities who I assume get some funds from the royal foundation and a once i blue moon visit from a royal. Harry should continue his work on mental with veterans and maybe the youth but not under Heads Together.
IMO Invictus is Bigger than the Royal Foundation, how then can it a project or extension of th RF. Somebody is trying to muddy the waters with absolutely no shame.
Personally I hope the Sussexes don`t start a foundation. They are just too many foundations around. They can support charities like it is done with Sentebale or as with Meghans cookbook, without necessarily creating a foundation.
We see you trying to claim Invictus Games as a joint effort, KP. SMDH that’s just wrong and a small example of what the Sussexes have had to deal with. There are no limits I guess