There's a Place In Hell for Women Who Don't Help Each Other

There's a Place In Hell for Women Who Don't Help Each Other

-Madeleine Albright

I sometimes hear in my talks and in private conversations, both from men and women, that one of the biggest barriers to women's success are other women (see one sad story here). I personally have a hard time forming a clear opinion on this topic. I have had over 10 bosses during my professional career, most of which were men, and overall most of which were NOT great people's managers.

One of the two women I worked for was someone who initially opened the door for me in Tech during my university days. The other woman was someone who almost got me fired when I worked in banking. I remember that after working for her, I subscribed to the often-repeated mantra among banking women, that women bosses are "the worst." Until I had one male boss, who really was the "worst."

As always, I look to scientific evidence to help me be more objective. In "The Myth of the Catty Woman," Sheryl Sandberg shares some of the research findings about this topic:

  • A study of Standard & Poor’s 1,500 companies over 20 years found that when one woman reached senior management, a second woman would be 51% less likely to make it. BUT, it was not the woman in leadership blocking them, but a MALE CEO. When a WOMAN was made CEO, women had more chances of joining the executive team. 
  • On corporate boards, despite having stronger qualifications than men, women are less likely to be mentored — unless there’s already a woman on the board. And when women join the board, there’s a better chance that other women will rise to top executive positions.
  • Women aren’t any meaner to women than men are to one another. We stereotype men as aggressive and women as kind. And judge women harshly when they don't play the part. More on this in my previous note on unconscious bias
  • A study among high-potential leaders involved in mentoring showed that women were mentored by 73% of the women but only 30% of the men. 65% of high-potential women who received support, paid it forward by mentoring others.
  • Yet women can still pay a price when they advocate for other women. A study of 300 executives found that , when men promoted diversity, they received slightly higher performance ratings. They were good guys who cared about breaking down the old boys’ network. When female executives promoted diversity, they were perceived as nepotistic — trying to advantage their own group and  punished with significantly lower performance ratings.

Perhaps, the critical point of Sheryl's article is about cultural settings versus biological origins: "Queen bees aren’t a reason for inequality but rather result of inequality. In the past, structural disadvantages forced women to protect their fragile turf. Some of those disadvantages persist. Research shows that in male-dominated settings, token women are more likely to worry about their standing, so they’re reluctant to advocate for other women. A talented woman presents a threat if there’s only one seat for a woman at the table. A marginally qualified woman poses a different type of threat: “Hiring you will make me look bad.”

A talented woman presents a threat if there’s only one seat for a woman at the table. A marginally qualified woman poses a different type of threat: “Hiring you will make me look bad.”

Where do we go from here?

In the discussion about diversity in leadership, people often tend to stick to the comfort zone of their individual experiences and assumptions about how the world works. I am very hopeful that if we start changing those assumptions and showing a better path forward, we can make work environments better for everyone involved. It's hard to change the traditional mindsets BUT, I am seeing a new generation of women leaders who are more aware and supportive of both women and men (see one such story here). It's our duty to join their ranks, support them and help them make it to the top in higher numbers.

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Regina Karson

Principal @ RKC | Technical Marketing, Award Winning Data Driven Content

6y

Many women help others and many do not. Shame on the do not group.

Joanna Bressel-Wilder

Organizational Change Management; Transformation Strategist; Coach

6y

Great article ! Leaders need to look and address why their company culture creates Vicious ambition that rewards discrimination

Wendy Wallbridge

Transformative coaching for modern leaders and resilient businesses. Author, Executive Coach and Founder of Spiral Up.

7y

Thank you for this great article Miriam

Dr. J. Shuyler Buitron, DCS, MSIA, CISSP

Lead CybersecurityManager/Specialist/SME #Top3Percent #CISSP #cybersecurity, Insider Threat SME, "Words Are My Power Tools"

7y

Now, Miriam. The underlying issue why women are still treated as 'second class citizens' is that we do not have equal standing in the Constitution of the United States of America. The fix for that is to get the lagging states to ratify ERA. The Equal Rights Amendment was introduced before Congress in the 1920s. It was ratified by Congress in the 1970s, but a majority of states have to also ratify the amendment before it becomes law. This one thing, when fully in place, will instantaneously put females on equal legal standing with males. Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex. Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification. Reference: http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/overview.htm This is the first thing that we need.

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Dr. J. Shuyler Buitron, DCS, MSIA, CISSP

Lead CybersecurityManager/Specialist/SME #Top3Percent #CISSP #cybersecurity, Insider Threat SME, "Words Are My Power Tools"

7y

In my experience in information security, I have seen women who would do anything to trip up other women whom they perceived as a 'threat' to their social-climbing the corporate ladder. Must be a special place . . . like someone said. My humble opinion is that each of us has to practice supporting our female colleagues. I work with few females at the moment, so I am mentoring some that I know via email. Keep up the good work.

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