It doesn't matter whether Zimmerman is Anglo, Latino, Peruvian, or French. He shot somebody and it needs to be investigated.

What is it you don't understand?

And your post doesn't really help, because in many areas of this country there is no love loss between Hispanic and Black communities!


You see the president is multiracial, and has indentified as being black since he was a little boy...so why would you call him "white"?

Or, to decide that there is inter-minority tension?

Or, for you to decide that I was the one who posed the question about the President.

Please, let others participate in this thread who "get" the o.p. Thanks.

Most are Mestizos of course, but when asked about their heritage they usually answer "Soy Español."

Does anyone think that could possibly be why they seem unwilling to prosecute? It would not be the first time in that
city that offspring of county employees got deferential treatment. A cop's son assaulted a homeless man and was not charged.

About a thousand miles from Sanford, so I doubt there was any favoritism involved from that angle.

shown then. So what is the point you are trying to make? The bottom line is you should not be able to kill an unarmed child and walk home with the gun in your possession and never be charged with a crime.

This guy really doesn't look Peruvian.

I don't mean anything bad or good or otherwise by that, but he just doesn't look Peruvian.

FWIW, one doesn't have to be white to be a racist.

His race is irrelevant. Martin's wasnt.

I have a background similar to Zimmerman's, my mother was even a translator at a county courthouse. I'm interested by the issues raised in the article.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

I can only say that I selected the article because of my appreciation of what it says and I said what I said and I don't see how what I said is not coherent.

So, I'll just let this thread meet its fate without any further assistance from me. I know that there are DUers out there who "get" it. Thanks.

"Hispanic" is an inherently ridiculous ethnic category, honestly; it means, in common usage, "Spanish-speaking Amerindian or mestizo" and doesn't mean "Spaniard" (Spaniards being white Europeans). Based solely on the evidence available from the 911 call, Zimmerman very obviously saw Trayvon Martin as an intruder and potential criminal because he was black. Which, as far as any discussion of race in this case matters, is the only relevant issue. Not whether Zimmerman himself is white, Hispanic, or something else.

It's the latter. Clarity is only achieved when Guns Whatsoever is the focus of the discussion.

just because a paranoid wannabee-warrior thought Trayvon was "out of place" and deserved to die.

He went hunting....pure & simple

Bob Dylan's last name was Zimmerman originally.

in which I believe that there was clearly a "racist" motive involved irrelevant if Mr. Zimmerman was green, purple, magenta or rainbow color, I can say that the article is right. I am hispanic but just the fact that I live in North America puts me in a "cultural limbo" both here in the mainland and in the US territory I happen to be born. Of course, the topic of the experience of hispanics in America are better left to be discussed perhaps in the DU Latin/Hispanic forum.

But just like in the case of Zimmerman, my first/last name are not typical of hispanics but Dutch (grandfather on dad's side was from The Netherlands). Furthermore, my military ID said at one point that I was "white" and NOT ONE person asked my opinion if I was white or black or brown or with polka dots for that matter. My discharge papers and military health records say I am white. The census I received a couple of years back asked me if I considered myself black or white hispanic, and so almost every employment or health record I'm to sign!!! How is one supposed to answer a question like that? I am hoping that the office of the census places a skin-color chart someday in order to "choose" a color just for them.

So yes, I agree with what the articles says. At times I have felt as if I have been placed in the middle of a race war and no one asks me in which side I am to agree. Republicans have been telling African-Americans that Hispanics are taking away their jobs, at least that was one talking point in Faux News at the time the were pushing for a border fence between Mexico and the US. After Katrina pundits in Faux News (of course) spoke of "illegal aliens" or "them mexicans" taking over Louisiana and threatening the "cultural heritage" of the area because now African-Americans were displaced while contractors were going crazy hiring "mexicans" .

One thing for sure, the right will throw ANYONE under the bus just to save that stupid law.

Wouldn't they label him as Hispanic or even 'accidentally' (fox news style accident) call him Mexican?

...less on the facts of the case than on Zimmerman's character. And whether or not he's a racist.

It's because they know the evidence is there he shot and killed someone, and he'll be convicted for it. However a hate crime charge will add 10-15 years.

I think that's the framing of the race discussion, at least from the perspective of those participating in the circus so far.