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      PastorGeek
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      Sturridge out with thigh injury
      Sep 05, 2014 11:52:42 pm
      Apparently he's going for a scan apparently

      But if it turns out to be a lengthy injury, how would you set up the forwards?

      Would you play Sterling WITH Balotelli and Coutinho behind? Balotelli and Lambert / Balotelli and Borini with Sterling behind them?

      Personally, would try a Sterling, Balotelli, Coutinho triangle. with a second choice of Balotelli / Borini with Sterling behind. (with Lambert on as Plan B option if needed)

      What do you think?
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #1: Sep 06, 2014 12:05:35 am
      This is where Borini really needs to step up and prove he is good enough. Last chance saloon. Personally I'd play Balotelli up top with markovic/Sterling/Coutinho behind or Lallana if fit.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #2: Sep 06, 2014 12:11:01 am
      Guess this comes under the as it stands thread, because personnel always changing via injuries or suspensions. 
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #3: Sep 06, 2014 12:19:35 am
      Assuming the line up at the moment is the same as for the Tottenham game we can change things around with our squad in a lot of ways.

      Option 1: 4-3-3 bring in Markovic for Sturridge, leave rest as is.

      Option 2: 4-2-3-1 Markovic/Coutinho/Lallana in for Sturridge and Allen (who doesn't work in a 4-2-3-1 unless he's part of the 2 in my opinion but that'd mean dropping Hendo or Stevie)

      Option 3: Continue with the diamond, move Sterling up top and bring back Coutinho or Lallana when he's match fit for Sturridge.

      Option 4: Continue with diamond, straight swap Sturridge for Lambert or Borini.

      Option 5: Recall Lord Aspas  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #4: Sep 06, 2014 12:33:09 am
      If we are going for something we haven't done before - I'd back the Christmas tree. Its basically the diamond, except 2 number 10s and 1 striker rather than vice versa. Sterling and Coutinho together centrally.
      Same issues as with the diamond (width only comes from fullbacks), but the reason I suggest it is that I'm not enamored with the idea of making Sterling a striker as many are. Not because I don't think he can do it - but because I don't think we need it, and he won't be as good at it, as he is a number 10. That is to say: he will do it well, but the team would be weaker for it than if he were played in the number 10 role.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #5: Sep 06, 2014 03:43:51 am
      Stick with the same formation used against Spurs but replace Sturridge with Lambert.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #6: Sep 06, 2014 04:04:10 am
      I'd keep the team that put spuds to the sword and swap Studge for Lambert. Borini on the bench. I like the 4-3-3 personally but we just seem to get another gear out of the team with the diamond + two strikers.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #7: Sep 06, 2014 05:55:18 am
      Quote from TheShanklyGates on Sep 06, 2014 03:43:51 am
      Stick with the same formation used against Spurs but replace Sturridge with Lambert.

      Would Lambert and Ballo work well together?

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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #8: Sep 06, 2014 07:53:28 am
      Did I seriously see someone suggest playing Balotelli and Lambert together.... oh dear.

      Look.  Just because Lambert and Borini are 3rd and 4th in line respectively at striker doesn't mean that they are necessarily Plan C and D respectively, in general. 

      We don't need to play with two strikers necessarily; we did that last season because both Suarez and Sturridge played better together and were unstoppable.  Brendan changes the system to fit the players, not the other way around. 

      So now, we don't have 2 top quality strikers available.  We have one---Balotelli. 

      Plan A should be return to a front three with Sterling, Balotelli, and Markovic on the other side.
      Plan B should be to stick with the diamond and have Sterling and Balotelli at the top.
      Plan C should be 4-2-3-1 with Henderson and Stevie in the back 2 of midfield, Sterling, Coutinho and Markovic in the three, and Balotelli up front on his own.

      These should be the first three plans.

      If, for some reason, something then happened to Balotelli as well, we should have plan D, E and F reflect A, B, and C, only with Sterling in the striker role.  Coutinho can take his place on the wing in a pinch.

      So basically we should try all six of those options prior to even considering playing Lambert or Borini.  I would much rather have Sterling as our striker than either of those two and I doubt anyone here would disagree.  In fact you might even want to think of Borini and Lambert as being 4th and 5th instead of 3rd and 4th, i.e., Sturridge and Balotelli and then BEFORE Borini and Lambert comes Sterling.

      He would be my third choice striker.  The kid is just brilliant.

      So please.  Keep Lambert and Borini as far away from the pitch as possible.

      Sterling and Balotelli are more than capable of holding down the fort until Sturridge gets back. 
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #9: Sep 06, 2014 08:16:17 am
      Quote from federer on Sep 06, 2014 07:53:28 am
      Did I seriously see someone suggest playing Balotelli and Lambert together.... oh dear.

      Look.  Just because Lambert and Borini are 3rd and 4th in line respectively at striker doesn't mean that they are necessarily Plan C and D respectively, in general. 

      We don't need to play with two strikers necessarily; we did that last season because both Suarez and Sturridge played better together and were unstoppable.  Brendan changes the system to fit the players, not the other way around. 

      So now, we don't have 2 top quality strikers available.  We have one---Balotelli. 

      Plan A should be return to a front three with Sterling, Balotelli, and Markovic on the other side.
      Plan B should be to stick with the diamond and have Sterling and Balotelli at the top.
      Plan C should be 4-2-3-1 with Henderson and Stevie in the back 2 of midfield, Sterling, Coutinho and Markovic in the three, and Balotelli up front on his own.

      These should be the first three plans.

      If, for some reason, something then happened to Balotelli as well, we should have plan D, E and F reflect A, B, and C, only with Sterling in the striker role.  Coutinho can take his place on the wing in a pinch.

      So basically we should try all six of those options prior to even considering playing Lambert or Borini.  I would much rather have Sterling as our striker than either of those two and I doubt anyone here would disagree.  In fact you might even want to think of Borini and Lambert as being 4th and 5th instead of 3rd and 4th, i.e., Sturridge and Balotelli and then BEFORE Borini and Lambert comes Sterling.

      He would be my third choice striker.  The kid is just brilliant.

      So please.  Keep Lambert and Borini as far away from the pitch as possible.

      Sterling and Balotelli are more than capable of holding down the fort until Sturridge gets back. 

      I am supposed to be having a rest from LFCREDS but I could not resist asking you a question, where was you when LFC appointed Brendan Rodgers as manager.  Surely if you were available Brendan would not of stood a cat in hells chance of being appointed manager. Back to my rest.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #10: Sep 06, 2014 09:51:07 am
      Would play Couthinho where Sterling was playing and push Raheem forward against Villa, and maybe play Lambert in the CL.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #11: Sep 06, 2014 10:05:49 am
      Flippin injured again!
      At least this is one way to know how we manage without him in the team, lucky that we've got a load of talent to work with.
      This was going to happen at some point, lets get all the practice in when the league is just getting going.
      If we don't do well just because Sturridge isn't available.. in fact; I can see us playing better because other players won't look for the easy option if you catch my drift.
      Others will step up and various other Clichés.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #12: Sep 06, 2014 11:10:31 am
      Thankfully we have Balotelli! We don't have to worry if the injury doesn't kepp him out too long. We have the cover now.
      I would play like this
                   Balotelli
      Sterling                Markovic
                  Coutinho
               Gerrard   Hendo
      back for and Mig
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #13: Sep 06, 2014 01:25:16 pm
      The Evening Standard had been reporting he was out for 4 months, but they have now cut that from their story, so hopefully bollocks.

      It'll be a big test of Balotelli if Sturridge is out for any length of time cos he is such a key player in our system. He is basically the perfect striker for our style of play.
      We'll find out a lot about Balotelli when he steps in. Thank F**k we at least got in a top class option.



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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #14: Sep 06, 2014 02:56:23 pm
      Mirror saying 3 weeks.
      http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/daniel-sturridge-ruled-out-englands-4172178

      England being a bit coy about what the injury actually is.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #15: Sep 06, 2014 03:41:16 pm
      Anyone remember this:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/i-tested-daniel-sturridges-resolve-by-playing-him-unfit-admits-roy-hodgson-8978787.html

      "Roy Hodgson has admitted that he tested Daniel Sturridge's commitment to England by picking him against Germany last month even though the striker was not completely fit."
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #16: Sep 06, 2014 03:46:27 pm
      Quote from alex1995 on Sep 06, 2014 11:10:31 am
      Thankfully we have Balotelli! We don't have to worry if the injury doesn't kepp him out too long. We have the cover now.
      I would play like this
                   Balotelli
      Sterling                Markovic
                  Coutinho
               Gerrard   Hendo
      back for and Mig
      I don't think Coutinho should play so deep and Sterling looks world class as a number 10. He is good on the wing but Sterling may be the best number 10 in the world if not now then quite soon. I would have this,
                 
                 
                       Balotelli

        Coutinho Sterling Lallana

                Gerrard Hendo


      Lambert if Balotelli underperforms  or needs fresh legs and Markovic to replace any of the three behind him. This talk of Borini is a little shocking and fed is right to say just because Sturridge is out doesn't mean Borini is in. I'd imagine that we will change formation since different players are available and we need to be versatile.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #17: Sep 06, 2014 04:01:27 pm
      Quote from lfc_ynwa on Sep 06, 2014 03:41:16 pm
      Anyone remember this:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/i-tested-daniel-sturridges-resolve-by-playing-him-unfit-admits-roy-hodgson-8978787.html

      "Roy Hodgson has admitted that he tested Daniel Sturridge's commitment to England by picking him against Germany last month even though the striker was not completely fit."

      Oh aye and that was confirmation if it was needed of what a F***ing balloon the man is.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #18: Sep 06, 2014 04:16:40 pm
      Quote from Ribapuru on Sep 06, 2014 03:46:27 pm
      I don't think Coutinho should play so deep and Sterling looks world class as a number 10. He is good on the wing but Sterling may be the best number 10 in the world if not now then quite soon. I would have this,
                 
                 
                       Balotelli

        Coutinho Sterling Lallana

                Gerrard Hendo



      Its been tried again and again, and 4-2-3-1 does not work with a Gerrard Hendo double pivot. The double pivot is asking 2 midfielders to do the running work of 3 as it is, and Gerrard doesn't have the legs to be part of that 2 man midfield. If we were to play that formation, it would have to be with another Box to box midfielder.
      4-2-3-1 does not accommodate our strongest team, even with Sturridge injured.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #19: Sep 06, 2014 04:20:08 pm
      Quote from federer on Sep 06, 2014 07:53:28 am
      Did I seriously see someone suggest playing Balotelli and Lambert together.... oh dear.

      Look.  Just because Lambert and Borini are 3rd and 4th in line respectively at striker doesn't mean that they are necessarily Plan C and D respectively, in general. 

      We don't need to play with two strikers necessarily; we did that last season because both Suarez and Sturridge played better together and were unstoppable.  Brendan changes the system to fit the players, not the other way around. 

      So now, we don't have 2 top quality strikers available.  We have one---Balotelli. 

      Plan A should be return to a front three with Sterling, Balotelli, and Markovic on the other side.
      Plan B should be to stick with the diamond and have Sterling and Balotelli at the top.
      Plan C should be 4-2-3-1 with Henderson and Stevie in the back 2 of midfield, Sterling, Coutinho and Markovic in the three, and Balotelli up front on his own.

      These should be the first three plans.

      If, for some reason, something then happened to Balotelli as well, we should have plan D, E and F reflect A, B, and C, only with Sterling in the striker role.  Coutinho can take his place on the wing in a pinch.

      So basically we should try all six of those options prior to even considering playing Lambert or Borini.  I would much rather have Sterling as our striker than either of those two and I doubt anyone here would disagree.  In fact you might even want to think of Borini and Lambert as being 4th and 5th instead of 3rd and 4th, i.e., Sturridge and Balotelli and then BEFORE Borini and Lambert comes Sterling.

      He would be my third choice striker.  The kid is just brilliant.

      So please.  Keep Lambert and Borini as far away from the pitch as possible.

      Sterling and Balotelli are more than capable of holding down the fort until Sturridge gets back.
      With the attacking style of play we use, it is very useful to have as many high-quality finishers on the pitch as possible in order to capitalise on throwing so many players forward. As a result, having Lambert and Balotelli up front with Sterling at 10 could very well be Rodgers's contingency plan for when Sturridge is out. This would also allow us to have 3 men in central midfield. Lambert might not be a very fashionable player, but he does offer us a presence and goal-scoring threat in the opposition's box.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #20: Sep 06, 2014 04:22:22 pm
      Might get some stick for this, but I would put Lambert in. I have a feeling he can do some good for us and finish some goals.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #21: Sep 06, 2014 04:38:45 pm
      I can't wait to see Lambert and Borini scoring goals for us.
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      Re: Sturridge out with thigh injury
      → Reply #22: Sep 06, 2014 04:41:39 pm
      I think we should continue to play the diamond. Simply because it gets the best out of Gerrard, Henderson and Sterling. The only time we've shown anything similar to our performances last season have been when we were using the diamond formation.

      I do worry about the lack of goals in a 4231 formation, as no one in the team has scored over 15 league goals in their career when we're without Sturridge. Gerrard has but he's restricted in his attacking and scoring capabilities.

      Lambert and Balotelli upfront in a diamond would give us more options than Balotelli upfront on his own, plus it allows our midfielders to play in a formation where they've excelled.
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